XP Deus "Normalize ID" Question

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Ok, as many of you know, the Deus has a function in the configuration settings called "Normalize ID". I think that's what it's called anyway. Too tired to go look, at the moment.

It basically takes the ID numbers in whatever frequency you're hunting in and displays them as if they were 18 kHz numbers.

My question then is this -

If you have a range notched out, like say 0-30 and you're hunting for gold rings in 18 kHz, this would work just fine.

But if you were to lower your frequency to something like 4 or 8 kHz, gold rings might fall into the notch area and you would miss those targets because the ID of targets gets lower as you lower the frequency.

But if you turn on the Normalize ID function in the configuration, will it still notch out those targets? Or will it act like those targets had the same ID numbers as if they were in the 18 kHz setting and let them through?

I guess what I'm asking is does the Normalize ID actually change the ID numbers for a target to those of the 18kHz frequency or does it just display them as if they were in the 18kHz frequency?

I've seen a few programs that utilize the notch feature, but if I change frequencies, I wouldn't want those programs to suddenly start filtering out good targets because the numbers shifted on me. If I turned on the Normalize ID function, that would prevent this from happening, no?

I hope I've explained my dilemma adequately. Thanks.

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I know this is not apples to apples but the Whites products have the same function. You are notching the VDI number. So if 0-30 is ignored (speaking of how whites works of cours) then those numbers are ignored in what whatever frequency you are using. I would Assume this is true with yours, after all the numbers are number not gold or silver just a conductivity scale in the frequency. The machine has no idea what the metal is just that the phase and voltage is x number within the total range.
This is why they give use the Normalized numbers so you don't have to remember what the particular target come in at for every possible frequency you happen to use. Also so the guy that used the standard frequency for years can use the newer multi frequency machine right of the bat without learning anything new.
Hope that is helpful an applicable.
 

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Seams like it would be an easy test for a Deus owner. Swing over something with a know VDI, notch it out so its gone, normalize it and change frequencies and see if it's still notched out.
 

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Seams like it would be an easy test for a Deus owner. Swing over something with a know VDI, notch it out so its gone, normalize it and change frequencies and see if it's still notched out.
Great idea, Rob. Think I'm about to fire up my swingy stick and try it.

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Ok, I tried it.

I took a clad US quarter and scanned it at 18 kHz. It rang up at 94-95.

I then dropped the frequency to 8 kHz and it rang up at 89.

I notched out from 1-90 and rescanned at both frequencies. It effectively killed the signal at 8 kHz. The signal was still loud and clear at 18 kHz.

I then normalized the ID.

Rescanned it in 18 kHz. Loud and clear at 94-95.

Rescanned it at 8kHz. Again, loud and clear at 94-95.

Hmmm... this has some very interesting implications.

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So basically, if you were interested in hunting only for coins due to time restraints or for any other reason, you could notch out everything under vdi 80, turn Normalize ID on, hunt the area in 18 kHz, switch to 8 kHz and rescan the area, and even though you shifted frequencies, nothing would have fallen into the notch area that wasn't already there before.

I like it! :)

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Interesting experiment. I'm not familiar with the Deus at all and I'm just curious to ask, "Can the Deus detect in both frequencies at the same time?"
 

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So basically, if you were interested in hunting only for coins due to time restraints or for any other reason, you could notch out everything under vdi 80, turn Normalize ID on, hunt the area in 18 kHz, switch to 8 kHz and rescan the area, and even though you shifted frequencies, nothing would have fallen into the notch area that wasn't already there before.

I like it! :)

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Thanks for asking & answering this question for me!! I was just wondering the same thing this afternoon! That is excellent news.
 

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