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    Jason Robito "New England" The oldest coins in the USA. Merrimack Valley Metal Detecting Group on Facebook.

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    Enough with the single frequency vlf machines.

    Let me say up front that I am an analog fan. I hit the wet salt for gold and a once in a blue moon a reale. I also relic and coin hunt inland just as often. I have had great and continued success with my Sovereign GT. I think it is unfortunate that one company has multiple models that are multifrequency while the others are lagging. Does Minelab have a broad raving patent on multifrequency?
    I think VLF has peaked. We are in the midst of new detector reveals. The IMPACT looks good but only single frequency at one time. I think many of us thought by advertising that the IMPACT would be multi frequncy.
    I hope that we will get a new multifrequency on the market soon.

    HH
    Jason

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    I am using a mutli frequency machine, been discontinued for years! Replace by the V3i.. There is nothing new in MD technology.. same old stuff, new faster processors, new data presentations.. but same old same means of detection..
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    New platforms will appear. They will be RF - transmit/recieve devices. They will utilize more than one frequency at a time. They will process signals in ways not done before. They will require fewer controls. They will provide new modes of operator feedback.


    I'll set my calendar alert for 1 January 2019 and check if my predictions were correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JASONSPAZ1 View Post
    Does Minelab have a broad raving patent on multifrequency?
    That was my exact thinking. And probably why they charge so much for their machines. Any patent on single frequency tech has probably gone public a long time ago.

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    Analog fan?! There hasn't been an analog detector made since the early 1980s. Everything switched over to digital processing long ago.
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    He's probably talking about using knobs or basic buttons on the head unit instead of "programs" that the new machines have.

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    Jason Robito "New England" The oldest coins in the USA. Merrimack Valley Metal Detecting Group on Facebook.

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    You hit the nail on the head GoldFleks.

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    Jason Robito "New England" The oldest coins in the USA. Merrimack Valley Metal Detecting Group on Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason in Enid View Post
    Analog fan?! There hasn't been an analog detector made since the early 1980s. Everything switched over to digital processing long ago.
    I am not a fan of navigating menus within menus in order to change a sensitivity or disc control.
    The Sovereign GT utilizes a microprocessor and digital filtration for excellent auto ground balancing with tracking.
    The Sovereign was probably the last of the hybrid analog and digital component land detectors and I am not counting the X-Terra series with vflex tech. B
    BS technology is what the Excalibur and Sovereign series uses.
    The reason I am an analog detector tech fan, is that I feel analog target responses have better target id "audio bending" than a pre programed digital target response.
    Just my opinion.
    Take Care
    HH
    Jason
    Last edited by JASONSPAZ1; Mar 11, 2017 at 11:57 AM.
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    You're right Jason. I've the CTX and frankly it really is just too much. I love swinging it. But it is just so much simpler to swing a machine without a screen and all those complicated settings. Multi-Frequency is the way to go, so much richer in the sounds for a real idea of what is there, the wholeness of the signal, like with the Excal. I've never even seen a Sovereign, but it's the same technology. So I definitely agree.
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    Jason Robito "New England" The oldest coins in the USA. Merrimack Valley Metal Detecting Group on Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepseekerADS View Post
    You're right Jason. I've the CTX and frankly it really is just too much. I love swinging it. But it is just so much simpler to swing a machine without a screen and all those complicated settings. Multi-Frequency is the way to go, so much richer in the sounds for a real idea of what is there, the wholeness of the signal, like with the Excal. I've never even seen a Sovereign, but it's the same technology. So I definitely agree.
    Yes sir.
    We are on the same page.

    HH
    Jason

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    I had two CTX detectors and never really enjoyed them as much as my Sovereign GT, especially at the beach.
    The tones make it very clear what's under the coil.
    Please Minelab, come out with a waterproof Sovereign GT with an LCD and knobs. Lol!


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    The reasoning cited in this post are the precise reasons I love to swing my minelab safari.: multi frequency without
    Complex programs and settings. Just the initial and occasional noice cancel
    and pick a preset program, or one of 4 user modified ones. Nearly The sensitivity of an etrak or ctx but none of the complexity. The key is learning the tones and keeping it slow. Modestly priced as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason in Enid View Post
    Analog fan?! There hasn't been an analog detector made since the early 1980s. Everything switched over to digital processing long ago.
    ...."Give Me Analog Or Give Me Death"
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    the garrett ground hog my father used in 1979 has 3 and 15 freq ... it was one at a time but still had 2 freq to choose from

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick K View Post
    New platforms will appear. They will be RF - transmit/recieve devices. They will utilize more than one frequency at a time. They will process signals in ways not done before. They will require fewer controls. They will provide new modes of operator feedback.


    I'll set my calendar alert for 1 January 2019 and check if my predictions were correct.
    And will these new platforms come out of a facility that rhymes with cursed exes?

 

 
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