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  1. #1
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    Aug 2007
    Rio Rancho, NM (Albuquerque)
    X-terra 70 WolfPack
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    Deeper digger

    On rare occasions we have the opportunity to run our machines almost full bore. Two days ago I was at an old homesite and I was able to run my MXT gain at +2. Didn't find anything good but I was digging pieces of iron at an honest, measured 12". Needless to say at that point I couldn't get very good leverage on my digger, (9" blade). I guess I could make wider holes but, that would take longer. So...my question is, do any of you folks you a shovel of some kind for those deep targets? What kind? And are they are pain to lug around? Thanks.
    Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. Vietnam # 10 G.I Wolfpack

  2. #2
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    Sharing the culture, history and adventure of the American Southwest.

    Jun 2006
    Reche Canyon California
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    Re: Deeper digger

    I use a old army shovel called " entrenching " tool. It can easily fold into a backpack. see pix

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  3. #3
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    "Is that a Geiger Counter?"

    Feb 2006
    South Central Upstate NY in the foothills of the headlands
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    Re: Deeper digger

    I have a bulky "D" handled trenching shovel I've been dragging around but just replaced it with this from Pamela Lesche at Predator Tools. It's their Dixie LB long-handled relic shovel. It has enough blade to dig but is a nice, handy package. Very well made and seems to be solid and heavy duty. I made a cover out of steam hose reenforced with two laters of 6 oz fiberglass in epoxy and I use it as a walking stick when "bushwacking".

    Not what you want to pull out on a soccer field when the grounds crew is around but really a good digger where holes can be made. Really handy when working cornfields as I can turn a plug without bending over.
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  4. #4
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    Aug 2007
    Rio Rancho, NM (Albuquerque)
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    Re: Deeper digger

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie P. (NY)
    I have a bulky "D" handled trenching shovel I've been dragging around but just replaced it with this from Pamela Lesche at Predator Tools. It's their Dixie LB long-handled relic shovel. It has enough blade to dig but is a nice, handy package. Very well made and seems to be solid and heavy duty. I made a cover out of steam hose reenforced with two laters of 6 oz fiberglass in epoxy and I use it as a walking stick when "bushwacking".

    Not what you want to pull out on a soccer field when the grounds crew is around but really a good digger where holes can be made. Really handy when working cornfields as I can turn a plug without bending over.
    Now we're talking.
    Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know. Vietnam # 10 G.I Wolfpack

  5. #5
    us
    Sep 2007
    West Virginia
    White's MXT
    298

    Re: Deeper digger

    I ran into the same problem last year. A few weeks ago I went to the local hardware store and found a utility shovel. It has a smaller head than a regular round point shovel and the total length was only about 24". I took the original handle out and installed a longer D handle making it about 32" long. I had to cut some of the new handle down to make it fit better in the smaller head. The measurements are estimated but it fits me perfectly. It is very light and long enough to be used as a walking stick. I finally got to try it out two weeks ago and found that I was not as tired at the end of the day as I would have been using my hand trowel. The only complaint I have about using a shovel is sometimes it gets in the path of my swing, especially going uphill. All in all...
    Utility shovel - $10
    New longer D handle - $10
    Not having to get up and down 1,000 times a day, cutting a good plug without getting your knees dirty, and only having $20 in a good digger - priceless!

  6. #6
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    Jun 2006
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    Re: Deeper digger

    I've always hunted with those entrenching shovels--mine is Vietnam-Era...but after using my friend's long-handled shovel, I've realized that for cornfields, long-handles are where it's at.


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  7. #7
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    Jun 2007
    Whites XLT
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    Re: Deeper digger

    Google search Lady Gardener and you will find the digging tool of all digging tools.Can't be used on the president's lawn though. :P

  8. #8
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    CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER

    Jun 2006
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    Re: Deeper digger

    Oh, and I should tell you a tip for digging a really deeeep hole: As a shovel-dug hole gets deeper, it will naturally get narrower--DANGER! You don't wanna scratch the heck out of the target. When it gets deep, go in and angle down and away from the bottom of the hole (you don't have to widen it to do this). That way you don't scratch your Civil War plate when you bring it up.

    -Buckleboy
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  9. #9
    us
    Apr 2008
    NJ
    Minelab Explorer SE Pro
    460
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Deeper digger

    It was suggested by a friend to try a Predator Model 80 Relic Pro (either T or D)

    I went with the T model. It's absolutely perfect, and very strong. There is no way I will ever be able to break it. It cuts through roots well too.

    Go look for yourselves : http://www.predatortools.com/

  10. #10
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    May 2007
    Southeast Missouri
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    Re: Deeper digger

    I have a similar shovel. It's called the little eagle. Shorter, easier to carry and has a T handle. Made by Lesche I believe.
    "It isn't the age, it's the mileage" IJ

  11. #11
    se
    Sep 2006
    Sweden
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    Re: Deeper digger

    I use this honey, can do both big and small holes, brakes big roots and cuts trough soil very easy..
    Very good all round.


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    Geologists are gneiss, tuff, and a little wacke.

  12. #12
    us
    Jan 2009
    Garland, NC
    Bounty Hunter Pioneer 505
    40

    Re: Deeper digger

    Hey, check out my post on Improved Sample Panning

  13. #13
    se
    Sep 2006
    Sweden
    White's or Minelab
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    Re: Deeper digger

    Quote Originally Posted by Roln99
    Hey, check out my post on Improved Sample Panning
    What the heck does that have to do with deep diggers? Beats me.
    Geologists are gneiss, tuff, and a little wacke.

  14. #14
    Charter Member
    us
    Mar 2007
    NY
    Teknetics G2, Bounty Hunter TimeRanger
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    Re: Deeper digger

    The folding army shovel pegleg spoke about above, is available in WalMart ( camping supply isle) for $8. It can also be had at Army/Navy supply stores for about the same price.

  15. #15
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    Dec 2007
    North Texas
    Garrett AT Pro
    251

    Re: Deeper digger

    If you want a folding shovel, check out the Gerber e-tool! You can find them on ebay for a good deal at times...but they're not real cheap new! They run about $40-50! I have one and it makes all the other e-tools I've seen look like junk!

    No pics but I have a 'sharpshooter' shovel I bought for my landscape biz that goes with me detecting old farms. It's got a plastic 'unbreakable' handle, and I've sharpened the edges of the shovel to the point that I can lop off smaller branches if I have to bushwhack to a site! Naturally it digs well.
    My two best detectors are now 46 years old, need a little help sometimes, but haven't let me down!

  16. #16
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    Jun 2006
    Out in the hills near wherendaheckarwe
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    Re: Deeper digger

    Quote Originally Posted by jocap
    The folding army shovel pegleg spoke about above, is available in WalMart ( camping supply isle) for $8. It can also be had at Army/Navy supply stores for about the same price.
    You'd do better with the surplus shovels. I've busted two of the black E tools from Walmart. The nut that allows the handle to swivel is made out of jap crud metal and doesn't hold up well.

    Some surplus stores have the German ones that are built tough and have the pick that can be swung out to use if needed. $9.99 even comes with a leather sheath. The pick can puncture a 55 gal drum without hardly messing up the paint. DON'T ASK HOW I KNOW
    I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!

 

 

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