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  1. #31
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    Jun 2016
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    I can't speak for the F75 or the T2. I did have the ATP before trading up for the Deus. That made me wonder about the Gold Bug Pro you were using that was working so well for you. Is it the high freq making the coins sing like you stated? I took someone's Relic program and I run it at the highest freq and it's working very well for me. I really like the frequency options of this machine.
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  2. #32
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    Sep 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCaribbeanDigger View Post
    Between a T2 LTD and. F75LTD Camo edition? What would you choose
    I would take the F75 just for the fact of it saving settings when turned off and it has a backlight.....those two are enough for me. Performance wise, I seen very little difference. Also, the F75 has a smaller iron range making the ID range for the "good stuff" a little more spread out.....liked that also.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCaribbeanDigger View Post
    Between a T2 LTD and. F75LTD Camo edition? What would you choose
    I believe they are similar, both have boost.
    There are common difference between all issues of these models, the T2 doesn't save settings or have a backlight...not actually a deal breaker on either for me, really.

    The T2 has a much larger iron range and it might be more suited for hunting relics but I prefer the smaller section on the top end Fishers...I do extremely well in crazy iron sites with that smaller range.
    The fact that there are no concentric coils available for the T2 might be important for some.
    I have 2 DD coils for my Fisher and nothing is really a problem at all, even crown caps, with the right knowledge, but I also have an elliptical concentric and man I would miss it if I couldn't use that one when I feel like it.
    Something special and extra sweet about that thing, the response, the tones, the sharp disc and very good depth.
    I can definitely tell a difference between using that one and a DD and even if I don't use it all he time when I do use it every time I get that first signal the second I hear it I smile.

    For these reasons I would personally go with the Fisher.
    Last edited by digger27; Oct 04, 2016 at 02:48 PM.
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  4. #34
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    Just Some YouTube Dude

    Feb 2015
    Central California
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    As a coin shooter who considers relics 2nd fiddle...I can say I don't really miss (or see a difference) the 0-20 iron range the Land Ranger Pro had over the T2 and Gold Bug my wife and I currently own.

    Perhaps in relic hunting it can come into play where iron is a big deal....but for coin shooting...the T2 and Gold Bug lock onto silver and clad range targets to the point the audio disappears. I'd say the Gold Bug locks on even better than my T2....as the T2 will start to waiver once it hits whisper territory at 10-12 inch depths. The Gold Bug will not however....if it whispers...it will ID. Almost always correctly.

    I've tested the XP Deus...F44...Ace 400...Land Ranger Pro and a few Bounty Hunters. Nothing comes close to the Gold Bug as far as locking on ID. Nothing I've held in my hands anyways. IDK if it has to do with the higher 19khz frequency...since that is supposed to not be so great on silver/clad range as some of the other machines I've used/tested. But there is no denying it locks on deep coins with ease.

    If the F75 can id those last few inches into the 10+ range the T2 cannot....and you are a coin shooter....I'd say go with the F75. It does have more features a coin guy would want.

    Being a coin guy who bought the T2 to "force" myself into relic hunting and away from the parks/schools....it backfired. This T2 slays coins very deep with a very solid ID. I have never dug so many wheat pennies in such a short amount of time. I'd be hard pressed to spend more for the F75. But that is just me....if it was not my cash buying...I'd be swinging a CTX3030 right now.

  5. #35
    pr
    Aug 2013
    Puerto Rico
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahskeeter View Post
    I can't speak for the F75 or the T2. I did have the ATP before trading up for the Deus. That made me wonder about the Gold Bug Pro you were using that was working so well for you. Is it the high freq making the coins sing like you stated? I took someone's Relic program and I run it at the highest freq and it's working very well for me. I really like the frequency options of this machine.
    To tell you the truth it finds coins! So far I haven't found coins no more than 7 inches. Probably I have not been to a place where there are really deep targets. Even though it is a high freq machine it does see and find the coins! I found a 1951 silver washington at 7" ringing a consistent 90 on the GBP.
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  6. #36
    pr
    Aug 2013
    Puerto Rico
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    Ok I just purchased an F75 LTD Camo edition. It is used but saw pictures of it and honestly looks like it was a back up machine or was just used a couple of times! Comes with a brand new 5" coil, new carrying case and a Teknetics Hat! Now starts the waiting game!
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  7. #37
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    Mar 2009
    Columbia falls Montana
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHunterGT View Post
    As a coin shooter who considers relics 2nd fiddle...I can say I don't really miss (or see a difference) the 0-20 iron range the Land Ranger Pro had over the T2 and Gold Bug my wife and I currently own.

    Perhaps in relic hunting it can come into play where iron is a big deal....but for coin shooting...the T2 and Gold Bug lock onto silver and clad range targets to the point the audio disappears. I'd say the Gold Bug locks on even better than my T2....as the T2 will start to waiver once it hits whisper territory at 10-12 inch depths. The Gold Bug will not however....if it whispers...it will ID. Almost always correctly.

    I've tested the XP Deus...F44...Ace 400...Land Ranger Pro and a few Bounty Hunters. Nothing comes close to the Gold Bug as far as locking on ID. Nothing I've held in my hands anyways. IDK if it has to do with the higher 19khz frequency...since that is supposed to not be so great on silver/clad range as some of the other machines I've used/tested. But there is no denying it locks on deep coins with ease.

    If the F75 can id those last few inches into the 10+ range the T2 cannot....and you are a coin shooter....I'd say go with the F75. It does have more features a coin guy would want.

    Being a coin guy who bought the T2 to "force" myself into relic hunting and away from the parks/schools....it backfired. This T2 slays coins very deep with a very solid ID. I have never dug so many wheat pennies in such a short amount of time. I'd be hard pressed to spend more for the F75. But that is just me....if it was not my cash buying...I'd be swinging a CTX3030 right now.
    Cracks me up when people say the t2 isn't a coin detector. Learn how to use it is a beast.
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  8. #38
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    Coin Rescue Tech

    Jun 2014
    Northern O-H-I-O
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    I have swung an F75 LTD2 for about 2 years. I have dug pennies at 9"-10" as well as quarters at 10"-12". The deepest target I dug was a piece of old lead pipe at 14". I have never used cache mode other than playing around and do not use boost as much as I thought I would when I bought it. Boost increases the falsing so I mainly use it to get a better VDI on an iffy signal.
    My normal setup is disc 1 through 14, sensitivity between 65 & 85 most places and 4 tones. I always GB and switch through the frequencies to find the quietest one.

    My LTD is black, my preference. The last thing I want to hunt in the woods with is a camou detector, like I said, personal preference. Heck if I need to use my old pro pointer (in the woods) I wrap it with a strip of hot pink duct tape. Once I sat it down and it took me 45 minutes to locate it. While in the Army I thought a camou wallet would be a great buy. Soon after I got it home, it dawned on me that if I ever dropped it in the woods, "Good Luck" trying to find it. I never used it, even when in garrison.
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  9. #39
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    Jul 2019
    Deltona Fl
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    I just got done reading this old thread on the subject but a lot of posts talk about other detectors and it was confusing. So let me express my opinion on both since I own both and I guess new people want to know the difference between the AT-Pro and T-2. I own both The AT Pro and the T2 LTD.

    The T-2 is a bit more complicated to setup correctly than the ATP but both take a minute or 2 to set up.

    Both are great units and will go deep. Both have a different modes for different hunting.

    The ATP is much more stable on the beach and is so good (if set right) you will think it's turned off. The T-2 is a chatter box.

    The T-2 is lighter but not water proof.

    The ATP needs special headphones where the T-2 uses common 1/4" phones. (you can buy an adapter to use 1/4" for the ATP)

    I find the ATP easier to pinpoint targets and it seems to have a better setup for that. The ATP screen shows when you are right over the target.

    The ATP has only 1 mode for different tones Std. coin where the T-2 has 5 or 6 which makes hunting easier because you can tell by the sound what is down there and then check the numbers instead of watching the screen constantly.

    The ATP has battery holders which can be bought anywhere cheap and really clip in tight. The T-2 doesn't and is a pain to load/unload the 4 batteries and should a spring/clip break it's back to the factory. (a common problem for Teknetics from the beginning starting with the 9000 model with 14 batteries.)

    There are more coil options for the ATP

    The T-2 is easy to turn off/on and has a volume control. The ATP is a pain to turn off/on and has no volume control. It uses the mode button for different functions.

    The ATP seems to lock on to targets better.

    The T-2 has a longer stem. I'm only 5'10" but the ATP makes me bend over and the T-2 is longer and more comfortable.

    The ATP has a smaller screen and I need to wear my reading glasses to see it. The T-2 is larger and brighter and easier to see.

    Both last around the same time on 4 batteries and can use regular or rechargeable batteries.

    All in all IF I had to chose only ONE it would be the ATP but the T-2 has it's value also and depends what's important to you. If I'm going to the beach the ATP comes along. If I'm heading to a trashy park it's the T-2 and if I'm searching an open clean field both come along. You really can't go wrong with either one.

  10. #40
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    Jul 2015
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    These detectors were both great in their day (I owned and enjoyed using both)...unfortunately Nokta is about to release a detector (Simplex+) as good as either for about $250 and that is where the industry is headed. Minleab is about to release a multifrequency detector (Vanquish) at about the same price point as an ACE 400. FT and Garrett need to wake up and start innovating fast if they want to stay relevant.
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  11. #41
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    Jul 2019
    Deltona Fl
    AT-Pro - Teknetics T2 LTD
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    Quote Originally Posted by vferrari View Post
    These detectors were both great in their day (I owned and enjoyed using both)...unfortunately Nokta is about to release a detector (Simplex+) as good as either for about $250 and that is where the industry is headed. Minleab is about to release a multifrequency detector (Vanquish) at about the same price point as an ACE 400. FT and Garrett need to wake up and start innovating fast if they want to stay relevant.
    Simplex+ $299..... Read all about it. Doesn't impress me. Nothing new just made simple with fewer controls and options.

    Vanquish - Simple yet powerful, it’s perfect for anyone starting out. Simply turn on and go. I'll bet it's great for a junk park or old home site. Again nothing new just made simpler to use with less options/settings and neither of them will go as deep as a T-2 or ATPro
    Both are geared to the newbie.

    You are right though, the big guys need to step up their game because sooner or later someone will come out with something to blow them away and it's game over. Right now most top end detectors go to 10" - 12" on a quarter on a good day. When one comes out that goes 2' with all the settings/options under $600 it will be game over.
    Last edited by Billieg; Nov 01, 2019 at 11:58 PM.

  12. #42
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    Jul 2015
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billieg View Post
    Simplex+ $299..... Read all about it. Doesn't impress me. Nothing new just made simple with fewer controls and options.

    Vanquish - Simple yet powerful, it’s perfect for anyone starting out. Simply turn on and go. I'll bet it's great for a junk park or old home site. Again nothing new just made simpler to use with less options/settings and neither of them will go as deep as a T-2 or ATPro
    Both are geared to the newbie.

    You are right though, the big guys need to step up their game because sooner or later someone will come out with something to blow them away and it's game over. Right now most top end detectors go to 10" - 12" on a quarter on a good day. When one comes out that goes 2' with all the settings/options under $600 it will be game over.


    They are both AS DEEP (we've basically reached the limit of single frequency vlf induction balance technology as far as depth is concerned and the Simplex is no exception) and both will have higher recovery speeds than either the ATP or T2 (or F75 for that matter which I still own) which will enable them to be killer in thick iron. I have seen the demonstrations of the Simplex from Detectival at UK and they have impressed even die hard legends in the industry like Andy Sabisch who has written books on just about any detector model you can think of (I know this because I teach classes with him on how to use XP and Minelab detectors and I have been featured in his latest handbook on the Equinox).

    Don't be fooled by the low prices and operational simplicity of these "entry level" detectors. All they are really missing are the tweakable bells and whistles features, not the performance. They are just as capable as these mid-range offerings from the "big boys" with many non-entry level features such as manual ground balancing, all metal modes, multi tones, wet salt beach capability, wireless audio, and in the case of the Simplex fully submersible to 10 feet just like the AT Pro and less susceptible to EMI than the T2 and will have an arsenal of accessory coils to boot. BTW check out the TNET sponsoring vendor sites, $254 actual (not $299 list) for the Simplex ($340 if you want wireless), and the pre-sale waiting lists are already a mile long and "sold out" in some cases. I would be hard pressed to say the value of any additionalmfeatures or marginal performance woukd be worth the addtional hundreds of dollars I would have to pay for a new T2 or ATP or AT Max.

    I own an F75, MXT, Equinox, Garrett ATX, and XP Deus and have owned an ATP, T2, and MX Sport - almost all are or were great rigs, but even I am impressed at what Nokta has been able to put together in a $254 package. I know it will keep pace with and in some cases surpass my F75 and perhaps even my Equinox in capability under certain conditions.

    The "big boys" Garrett and FT gotta wake up and realize they aren't the big boys anymore, at least not based on sales volume. While they were sleeping and releasing warmed over versions of wingke frequency detector designs they first released in the mid-2000's (AT Max and the Teknetics Patriots series), Minelab ate their lunch with the highly popular and affordable Equinox series detector. You only need to see the high volume of activity in the Equinox forum vs. the Garrett and FT forums COMBINED to realize this is the case and this is a world wide thing, not just a US thing. Having talked to several reputable dealers and industry experts on this, Garrett and First Texas have a lot of catching up to do and there is basically no word from them on what their next big thing is going to be to get their loyal customer bases excited about their products again.

    Garrett has the capability and resources to innovate in detector design and have had a long history of doing so, but not lately. I am not sure what FT is doing because they haven't really released anything innovative since tge T2/F75. They have allowed these other companies to just come in and take over. Not a good look for US developed and manufactured detectors, unfortunately.
    Last edited by vferrari; Nov 02, 2019 at 07:44 AM.
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  13. #43
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    Rook

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    T2 and just live with a little more EMI. Put a cherry picker small round coil on it and the weight will be similar to the Deus.
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  14. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by rook3434 View Post
    T2 and just live with a little more EMI. Put a cherry picker small round coil on it and the weight will be similar to the Deus.
    That would have been my answer too in 2016 when this thread started. A lot more cheaper and better alternatives available now and on the horizon from Nokta and Minelab.
    "The future ain't what it used to be..."

  15. #45
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    Paul

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    I'm not drinking the Notka-Makro koolaid...lol. All of there detectors are chatter boxes and will sooner or later drive you crazy.

 

 
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