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  1. #1
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    URBAN DISCOVERY !

    Nov 2004
    NC
    WHITES DFX, TESORO
    955
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Tesoro Sand Shark

    So Sorry !!
    I got a Pulse Induction Sand Shark, not a Tiger Shark...

    Just got a Tesoro Sand Shark yesterday and was running some air tests today on some 18k
    gold items dug in Spain years ago.

    I was hoping that this machine would pick up the Rope Chain, but it will not.
    I does pick up the clasp though...

    Here is how it air tested on all this stuff.....

    Big Gold Christ Head at about 10 inches
    Small Gold Christ Head (solid) at about 8 inches
    Big Gold Sharks tooth, (clasp & mount 18k) at about 6-7 inches
    Small Gold Sharks tooth, at about 3-4 inches
    the Gold chain clasp at maybe 1-2 inches
    and the Chain itself would not respond no mater what I did...
    stretched out, or piled up or even when I tied it in knots....
    The Rope Chain is about 30 grams of 18k so worth today about $1800

    Anyone know of a pulse machine that could actually pick that up ?
    anyone can actually show airtest results?
    I used to have a Tesoro Stingray that would blow your ears off on something like this..

    any and all comments welcome.
    Richard
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  2. #2
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    Jul 2010
    Central Florida
    Tesoro Cibola Tesoro Compadre
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    Metal Detecting

    Re: Tesoro Tiger Shark

    Unless the chain is curled into a ball in the dirt or sand, it would be hard for any detector, pulse or VLF, to pick it up. A stretched out chain is difficult for any detector to hit.

    Most detectors, like yours, will sound off on the clasp, though. That's how most chains get found.
    He who fears digging trash will dig no treasure.

  3. #3
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    NC
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Tesoro Tiger Shark

    Quote Originally Posted by Smudge
    Unless the chain is curled into a ball in the dirt or sand, it would be hard for any detector, pulse or VLF, to pick it up. A stretched out chain is difficult for any detector to hit.

    Most detectors, like yours, will sound off on the clasp, though. That's how most chains get found.
    So sorry, it's the Sand Shark, and I had a Tesoro Stingray years ago that would have blown your ears off on that chain...
    I would suspect that the Tiger Shark would do the same...
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  4. #4
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    Director-Search & Recovery Team of Oakland County.

    Aug 2005
    In Michigan now.
    Excal 1000, Sovereign GT, CZ-20, Tiger Shark, Tejon, GTI 1500, Surfmaster Pulse, CZ6a, DFX, AT PRO, many more.
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    Re: Tesoro Sand Shark

    I have the Tiger Shark and it will go off on those thin gold chains clasp or not. It is the only one of my detectors that can see those chains. But it also find the smallest foil or bird shot.
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  5. #5
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    Jun 2011
    Ohio
    Tesoro Sand Shark, Fisher CZ-21, Sovereign GT
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    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting

    Re: Tesoro Sand Shark

    Here is an example of one I just found. For reference, the heart is smaller than a dime and the necklace was complete so that may have been the reason I found it. It was found about 3" down under the sand in the water (fresh water lake) and was just a whisper of a change in tone with my Sand Shark.

    I just took the neckace downstairs and did an air test. I could only hear (barely) it within an inch of the coil. Settings were Pulse 75% Volume 60% and in VCO for the test. (The same settings that were used to find it in the water) So as others have said, don't put a huge amount of credence in air tests.

    When I first got the Sand Shark, I was very disappointed in the air tests I ran.... but am quite pleased in all that I have found with it in the water.

    Just to see if my (new) CZ-21 would pick it up with an air test, it did BUT didn't do much better than the Sand Shark (air test). On the CZ, I had the volume in boost also.

    I have found though with such faint signals, you must be paying attention AND moving low and slow. Works for me.

    Cliff
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  6. #6
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    Re: Tesoro Sand Shark

    Quote Originally Posted by cdv1
    Here is an example of one I just found. For reference, the heart is smaller than a dime and the necklace was complete so that may have been the reason I found it. It was found about 3" down under the sand in the water (fresh water lake) and was just a whisper of a change in tone with my Sand Shark.

    I just took the neckace downstairs and did an air test. I could only hear (barely) it within an inch of the coil. Settings were Pulse 75% Volume 60% and in VCO for the test. (The same settings that were used to find it in the water) So as others have said, don't put a huge amount of credence in air tests.

    When I first got the Sand Shark, I was very disappointed in the air tests I ran.... but am quite pleased in all that I have found with it in the water.

    Just to see if my (new) CZ-21 would pick it up with an air test, it did BUT didn't do much better than the Sand Shark (air test). On the CZ, I had the volume in boost also.

    I have found though with such faint signals, you must be paying attention AND moving low and slow. Works for me.

    Cliff
    It came up with the pendant ?
    If you look at all the pictures I put up the smallest thing is the clasp, and I could hear a faint but clear
    sound over that.
    I am sure it would have picked up the pendant.
    I remember in Spain (1994-6) we used to dig a chain regularly with some type of medal on it.
    But we always got the chain because of the medalion... and the chain came with it..
    I have always wondered how many items of Gold lie right under our feet but we can't get to them..

    But I only once dug a chain by itself, using the Tesoro Stingray it was smaller than that rope chain, but solid...
    and it was dark outside and we were walking along the medium tide line when I got a faint signal and
    reached down and got it out of the sand, we did not know it was gold until we got home.
    I still have it, in a SDB but will break it out to test this when I get a chance.
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  7. #7
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    Jun 2011
    Ohio
    Tesoro Sand Shark, Fisher CZ-21, Sovereign GT
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    Re: Tesoro Sand Shark

    Yes, it came up complete as you see it with the pendant. The next day, same beach, here are some other examples of what I found. The one was only a few (4?) links of a chain. The only way I got these small items with my scoop was I would walk to shore and dump the contents at waters edge and use my propointer to locate them.... I had been chasing the signals in the water and they were going out of the holes in the scoop. I just had to know what they were. Sand Shark hit on all of them but faint signals.

    Cliff
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  8. #8
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    Re: Tesoro Sand Shark

    That 14k ring, how deep was that ?
    did it sound faint or real good ?
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  9. #9
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    Jun 2011
    Ohio
    Tesoro Sand Shark, Fisher CZ-21, Sovereign GT
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    7 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting

    Re: Tesoro Sand Shark

    That 14k ring was in the scoop with a dime. It sounded loud and was less than 3 inches deep, but that isn't a fair comparison since I did find it and a dime in the same scoop. Actually I saw the dime and then noticed some yellow around it. In my opinion, the Sand Shark will find small chains but that relies mainly on the user and how it is used. If you don't take the time to learn the machine, If your hearing isn't good enough to pick up what the detector is telling you, IF you don't swing the coil over the chain (low and slow) OR you are to distracted by the scenery, you will miss the small stuff out there.


  10. #10
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    TerrySoloman.com

    May 2010
    Congress, AZ - White Plains, NY
    Tesoro Sand Shark - Tesoro Lobo SuperTraq - Minelab GPX 5000
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    Re: Tesoro Sand Shark

    Hi Richard! Air tests don't mean squat, period. You use air tests to recognize sounds, set up your machine, and to learn discrimination capabilities - they are not accurate for depth or target size. I have found three gold chains with no clasps in 4"- 7" of wet sand with my Sand Shark. One of them a Garrett Ace 250 could have found - a 28-gram 'Cuban" gold chain! If the chain is fine and stretched out, there is a good chance you'll walk over it with a PI unit more times than you would with a VLF. But the VLF ain't going to get it in the wet sand either!
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