Heck of a deal

[ARC]

You are correct... 1960's...



This one sold on 1st dibs...

$3,600 Asking Price

https://www.1stdibs.com/jewelry/bracelets/more-bracelets/1960s-gold-gem-set-bracelet/id-j_186778/

 

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[Blak bart]

My grandma had one.....it was expensive and I think it was a fashion fad...popular for a while and then......not so popular.

 

[tamrock]

You are correct... 1960's...

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This one sold on 1st dibs...

$3,600 Asking Price

https://www.1stdibs.com/jewelry/bracelets/more-bracelets/1960s-gold-gem-set-bracelet/id-j_186778/

Nice AARC. I see some difference in the one in the link. Note how the hinges are constructed on the one by one hinge on each end of the connection to each panel on the one that sold. Mine has a long rod of gold that seems to act as a strut to secure it stronger. The size of mine is roughly the same, but most significant is the one in the link and mine is the one in the link weighs 70.5 grams and mine tips between 96 & 97 grams. Also the push on the clasp of mine is designed different and mine still retains the 14k marked saftey chain. I'm thinking mine is slightly better. About the only way I can think of getting a good estimate on the gold content is roughly measure each stone find out what each that size should weigh and subtract that total from the weight of the whole piece. The more accurate way of course would be the removal of all the rocks from the setting, but somehow that sounds like a dumb idea, or so it seems to me.

 

[ARC]

There is no doubt in my mind... yours IS better.

Much even.

5k

 

[tamrock]

I’d try selling it as is. And start around $3500 obo. You’re not gonna find another one like it. It might take a while to sell it but I would not scrap that.

Yeah I think I'm gonna hang on to this a while and yes what you suggest as an asking price would be my idea also. No way I'm scraping this. If something like this was made new today would differently cost quite a bit I would think.

 

[tamrock]

There is no doubt in my mind... yours IS better.

Much even.

5k

My guess the two were possibly made by the same group of jewelers. Where and who they were is still a mystery to me. The work is not signed by either.

 

[tamrock]

I never posted an additional find I got the bracelet at and it was this 10k ring with a blue facet stone. Marked J.G. 10k and weighs 4 grams. Not sure of the stone, as it's more than likely a simulated one would be my guess. It was priced at 10 bucks. Believe it or not there was a thin 1mm 16" maybe 14k gold chain there I could have also picked up for 12 bucks, but voice in my head said leave it for someone else. Maybe my reward for leaving that was the over 1100 grams of sterling I obtained in the early 19c. chambersticks I scored when I got home and the gold chain I left behind will make someone else's day.

 

[mugsisme]

FYI -- I paid $3500 for a big chunky bangle like that at the consignment store in the spring. Great find!! Congrats!!!

 

[trdking]

This is a spectacular piece and Hot in the market now Several of these just went off the block at ha.com Awesome score and 3K to 3.5K is not unreasonable

 

[tamrock]

This is a spectacular piece and Hot in the market now Several of these just went off the block at ha.com Awesome score and 3K to 3.5K is not unreasonable

Maybe I should sell it, but BK had to say, you'll probably never find another at the price I got it, but then again there's been quite a few items I've bought and sold and never again had a chance to buy another for a song, like this 1967 Benrus Type II military wristwatch I paid $60. for and sold for $1295.00 I really wished I'd a hung on to it.

 

[Red-Coat]

I would say that dress ring is worth a second look. Although several manufacturers used ‘JG’ marks, that particular mark is not identified with 100% certainty but the consensus is that it’s probably the Jack Gutschneider Jewelry Co, of New York, NY. That’s my gut feeling too.

Gutschneider was a German-American designer and founded the company in 1957, initially using “Van Gogh” as a maker mark. He switched to “JG JLRY” and variations of it soon afterwards and there is no record of the company after 1963. If you compare the styling of the ‘J’ and the ‘G’ to the marks more commonly seen, I think there’s enough similarity to suggest it is his mark… perhaps used in abbreviated form on items too small to easily accommodate the mark in full.



If it is by Gutschneider then it’s a highly collectable piece. He is known for modernist designs, many of his pieces are one-offs and he sold mainly to high-end jewellery stores. I wouldn’t worry about it being ‘only’ 10K. On a ring with a shank as thin as that, most jewellers would drop down in karats to get additional hardness. Also, if it is Gutschneider then it’s really unlikely that the stone is synthetic or cheap. From the colour I see, I suspect it may be an iolite and a nice one too.

 

[SCpicker]

That ring is not a Jack Gutschneider piece. His pieces are works of art. The ring is typical low end gold jewelry.

I would say that dress ring is worth a second look. Although several manufacturers used ‘JG’ marks, that particular mark is not identified with 100% certainty but the consensus is that it’s probably the Jack Gutschneider Jewelry Co, of New York, NY. That’s my gut feeling too.

Gutschneider was a German-American designer and founded the company in 1957, initially using “Van Gogh” as a maker mark. He switched to “JG JLRY” and variations of it soon afterwards and there is no record of the company after 1963. If you compare the styling of the ‘J’ and the ‘G’ to the marks more commonly seen, I think there’s enough similarity to suggest it is his mark… perhaps used in abbreviated form on items too small to easily accommodate the mark in full.

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If it is by Gutschneider then it’s a highly collectable piece. He is known for modernist designs, many of his pieces are one-offs and he sold mainly to high-end jewellery stores. I wouldn’t worry about it being ‘only’ 10K. On a ring with a shank as thin as that, most jewellers would drop down in karats to get additional hardness. Also, if it is Gutschneider then it’s really unlikely that the stone is synthetic or cheap. From the colour I see, I suspect it may be an iolite and a nice one too.

 

[tamrock]

Now that we're looking at rings signed JG. I've got this 18k one with a mark JG. Which I've never have solved and could possibly be a Jack Gutschneider or not.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/garage-sale-finds/504560-18k-gold-ring-emeralds.html

 

[tamrock]

I would say that dress ring is worth a second look. Although several manufacturers used ‘JG’ marks, that particular mark is not identified with 100% certainty but the consensus is that it’s probably the Jack Gutschneider Jewelry Co, of New York, NY. That’s my gut feeling too.

Gutschneider was a German-American designer and founded the company in 1957, initially using “Van Gogh” as a maker mark. He switched to “JG JLRY” and variations of it soon afterwards and there is no record of the company after 1963. If you compare the styling of the ‘J’ and the ‘G’ to the marks more commonly seen, I think there’s enough similarity to suggest it is his mark… perhaps used in abbreviated form on items too small to easily accommodate the mark in full.

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If it is by Gutschneider then it’s a highly collectable piece. He is known for modernist designs, many of his pieces are one-offs and he sold mainly to high-end jewellery stores. I wouldn’t worry about it being ‘only’ 10K. On a ring with a shank as thin as that, most jewellers would drop down in karats to get additional hardness. Also, if it is Gutschneider then it’s really unlikely that the stone is synthetic or cheap. From the colour I see, I suspect it may be an iolite and a nice one too.

I was thinking it might be a tanzanite.

 

[Red-Coat]

I was thinking it might be a tanzanite.

No real way to tell from a photograph. It wouldn't be earlier than 1967 if it is Tanzanite.

 

[Red-Coat]

Now that we're looking at rings signed JG. I've got this 18k one with a mark JG. Which I've never have solved and could possibly be a Jack Gutschneider or not.

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/garage-sale-finds/504560-18k-gold-ring-emeralds.html

Those marks at least have no similarities to Gutschneider marks. That style of 'G' with the funny arrow-like end is a characteristic of several Dutch makers using 'JG', but it won't be Dutch without their national hallmarks. Another of the 'JG' marks which remains unattributed.

 

[boogeyman]

I agree on that, but I did have the idea of turning it into a cat collar

Jeeze...... Now you did it! The cats never gonna let you have it back. I can see it now. Bracelet sold for two hundred dollars. Emergency room visit for stiches sustained from trying to get it off the cat $1300.00

 

[Trezurehunter]

Great looking piece.