Sometimes it is all in the timing

Rented Mule

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Went to a local SA Thrift Store today and did very well with some silver flatware and hollowware. Since a couple of the pieces are clearly marked Sterling I have to believe these were put out today.

First item I found was a small 6-1/4" plate (maybe candy dish?) that weighs 119 grams:

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The maker is Black, Starr & Frost. I had not heard of them but a bit of research shows them to be the oldest (from 1810) continuously operating jeweler in the US. They merged with Gorham in 1929 so the lack of Gorham in the name on this piece makes me think it is from 1929 or earlier.

The next piece I found also was clearly marked sterling, it is a Wallace small dish that Replacements.com describes as a Champagne/Sherbet dish:

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This one weighs 83 grams.

The next piece I found was a small pie server (54 grams) that I saw had a mark but could read till I got home:

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Turns out this was made in the Soviet Union in 1971 in what is now Estonia. The firm's name that made this is Tallinna Juveelitehas. It is .916 silver.

The last two pieces are a couple of German silver handled knives. The blades are stainless (rostfrei) but the handles are 80% silver (marked with 800 followed by a crescent moon and crown). There is a maker's mark after the crown but I cannot find a match to any manufacturer so far:

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I'd appreciate any guesses from the resident experts on this board like Red-Coat as to who is the maker.
 

Red-Coat

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That's a good haul. Unfortunately, a combination of poor focus and light reflection on the German knife means I can't read the mark.

The Black, Starr & Frost plate without any Gorham marks will be between 1874-1908, after which they became a public limited company with "Inc." added to their name. The chronology is:

Black Starr & Frost 1874 – 1908
Black Starr & Frost Inc. 1908 - 1929
Black, Starr & Frost-Gorham Inc. 1929 - 1940

Between 1851-1874 they were known as Ball, Black & Co.
 

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