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  1. #21

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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Congrats to Hogge on finding a counterfeit KGIII that is so far rarer than the 1784 Machins Mills copper Vlack 14-84A which always causes excitement in the colonial coin world when found. (Note, rarity like that does not always equate into more value, depends on collector interest, condition and demand)

    Don

    I knew it had potential, seen a lot of counterfeit Georgies and no 1783s. Pretty small crowd that are serious buyers for these but maybe someone will want it. If only it had the condition!

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  3. #22

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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!



    Just read your update and that is pretty awesome news. You know you have a good find when others are excited about it, and if the others are those guys... yeah be excited! You no doubt are on the site of your lifetime, keep digging it! If it's a small site and even if there is basically no signals left take your shovel and bring the targets to you. There is always more, they are just masked and deeper. You may only get a few from what will be a lot of digging, but from what we've seen a few more might just be enough for another great find.

  4. #23
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    AWESOME FIND!! Wish my Colonial coin would have been something super rare like yours Hogge!! Very happy to see someone has found a very rare coin... DonSJ what is this coin worth
    some people call me the creeper ,cuz they don't know my name or face - Alice Cooper

  5. #24

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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by creeper71
    AWESOME FIND!! Wish my Colonial coin would have been something super rare like yours Hogge!! Very happy to see someone has found a very rare coin... DonSJ what is this coin worth

    I'll guess... 0-1,000,000

    No one can answer that unless it's sold, only worth what someone will pay. If it's better than the second known a sale from that coin might be a guideline.

  6. #25

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by creeper71
    AWESOME FIND!! Wish my Colonial coin would have been something super rare like yours Hogge!! Very happy to see someone has found a very rare coin... DonSJ what is this coin worth

    I'll guess... 0-1,000,000

    No one can answer that unless it's sold, only worth what someone will pay. If it's better than the second known a sale from that coin might be a guideline.

    So true IP, there is no track record on this Ringo 25-83A, so even though it has value, the answer is up for grabs. I have a very similar situation with the counterfeit I found last year that is only one of three/four known. That has been recently designated as a Batty 3826B. No intention of selling mine, but a lot of satisfaction knowing that there are so few known specimens.......

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  7. #26

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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by creeper71
    AWESOME FIND!! Wish my Colonial coin would have been something super rare like yours Hogge!! Very happy to see someone has found a very rare coin... DonSJ what is this coin worth

    I'll guess... 0-1,000,000

    No one can answer that unless it's sold, only worth what someone will pay. If it's better than the second known a sale from that coin might be a guideline.

    So true IP, there is no track record on this Ringo 25-83A, so even though it has value, the answer is up for grabs. I have a very similar situation with the counterfeit I found last year that is only one of three/four known. That has been recently designated as a Batty 3826B. No intention of selling mine, but a lot of satisfaction knowing that there are so few known specimens.......

    Don

    So are you saying you are "Batty" ? ... or maybe they are.

    A lot of relics are much the same way, just have to put the feelers out there and see what happens.

  8. #27

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by creeper71
    AWESOME FIND!! Wish my Colonial coin would have been something super rare like yours Hogge!! Very happy to see someone has found a very rare coin... DonSJ what is this coin worth

    I'll guess... 0-1,000,000

    No one can answer that unless it's sold, only worth what someone will pay. If it's better than the second known a sale from that coin might be a guideline.

    So true IP, there is no track record on this Ringo 25-83A, so even though it has value, the answer is up for grabs. I have a very similar situation with the counterfeit I found last year that is only one of three/four known. That has been recently designated as a Batty 3826B. No intention of selling mine, but a lot of satisfaction knowing that there are so few known specimens.......

    Don

    So are you saying you are "Batty" ? ... or maybe they are.

    A lot of relics are much the same way, just have to put the feelers out there and see what happens.
    I think a lot of these counterfeits could drive somebody "Batty" But in this case Batty was a Numismatist who evidently authored a book or two years ago and several counterfeits have been named after him.

    Don
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    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  9. #28

    Jan 2007
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Congratulations Hogge on your rare Geo. III. I found so many of them but it would be next to impossible to see as much detail as needed to identify rarity in the coin. Most of mine are much too environmentally damaged. You are rightfully excited.
    Chris

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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    With a clear photo, that should make the finds Banner.


    BIG congratulations.  How many of the coinshooters could say that they found a coin which was one of Three known? 





    The good news is that an article or some other kind of publicity on your coin will create some excitement and collector interest for this coin--if there isn't a good bit already.





    -Buckles
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST IS UP!! Check it out here:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Spring 2013 CaneField Bandits Totals:


    18th c. Engraved Silver Friendship Pendant
    1722 Colonies Francoises French 9 Deniers Copper
    "Le Bon Temps" Pocketwatch Winder
    1774 Two Reales
    1797 One Real
    1831 Mexican Republic One Real
    Four dateless Half Reales
    1740, 1799, 1807, and 1811 Half Reales
    1840-O Seated Half Dollar with MS details
    1847-O Seated Quarter with AU-50 details
    1838 Seated Dime
    1840-O and 1853-O Seated Half Dimes
    1824 Matron Head LC
    Dateless Matron Head LC
    Regiment of Artillery button (1811-1813)
    1812 era Artillery button
    One piece Eagle General Militia button(GI56)
    1700s Navy Cuff Button
    pre-CW Navy Cuff Button
    GS Eagle Button
    .31 cal. Brass Bullet Mold
    1873, 186?, and 18?? Shield Nickels
    1884 and 1905 V Nickels
    1908-D Barber Dime
    Trade Beads, Musketballs, Minieballs, etc.

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  11. #30

    Sep 2007
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    With a clear photo, that should make the finds Banner.


    BIG congratulations. How many of the coinshooters could say that they found a coin which was one of Three known?





    The good news is that an article or some other kind of publicity on your coin will create some excitement and collector interest for this coin--if there isn't a good bit already.





    -Buckles


    It's probably impossible to get a good picture of that coin but shouldn't stop it from making the banner. Heck you could just put the listing # and that should be good enough. History, rarity, & collectibility, over pretty anyday!

  12. #31
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    You know how they are about the BANNER around here   

    Perhaps after the coin is photographed, they can give Hogge permission to use the photo on Tnet...but probably too late for the banner by then. 


    Or we could just keep this post up top until the photos come through 



    -Buckles
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST IS UP!! Check it out here:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Spring 2013 CaneField Bandits Totals:


    18th c. Engraved Silver Friendship Pendant
    1722 Colonies Francoises French 9 Deniers Copper
    "Le Bon Temps" Pocketwatch Winder
    1774 Two Reales
    1797 One Real
    1831 Mexican Republic One Real
    Four dateless Half Reales
    1740, 1799, 1807, and 1811 Half Reales
    1840-O Seated Half Dollar with MS details
    1847-O Seated Quarter with AU-50 details
    1838 Seated Dime
    1840-O and 1853-O Seated Half Dimes
    1824 Matron Head LC
    Dateless Matron Head LC
    Regiment of Artillery button (1811-1813)
    1812 era Artillery button
    One piece Eagle General Militia button(GI56)
    1700s Navy Cuff Button
    pre-CW Navy Cuff Button
    GS Eagle Button
    .31 cal. Brass Bullet Mold
    1873, 186?, and 18?? Shield Nickels
    1884 and 1905 V Nickels
    1908-D Barber Dime
    Trade Beads, Musketballs, Minieballs, etc.

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  13. #32
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Send it in and get it slabbed its a lot easier. HH
    What you do in life, will echo a eternity,
    OIF 2007-2008, OEF 2010-2011

  14. #33

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Pappagiorgio
    All hereby declare this GEORGIVS copper ...

    HOGGIVS RIGHTEOUIVS ...

    Sweet Hogge Congrats ~ Nick
    You're Too Funny! Thanks Nick
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued

  15. #34

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by IAsoldier
    Send it in and get it slabbed its a lot easier. HH
    All real collectors of these types of coins would rather they weren't in plastic cases. The only thing grading companies put on coins like this is "Environmental Damage" and most do not grade. It's basically a waste of time and $$.
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued

  16. #35
    So many colonial sites to hunt....so little time.

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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    You know how they are about the BANNER around here

    Perhaps after the coin is photographed, they can give Hogge permission to use the photo on Tnet...but probably too late for the banner by then.


    Or we could just keep this post up top until the photos come through



    -Buckles
    Good idea. BB. I'll do my part.
    2013 notable finds

    2 silver Roosevelt dimes
    2 Mercury dimes
    3 silver Washington quarters
    1899 barber half dollar
    1909 O barber half dollar
    1843 cast counterfeit seated liberty half dollar
    1 indian head cent
    1 colonial copper (no detail)

  17. #36

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    You know how they are about the BANNER around here

    Perhaps after the coin is photographed, they can give Hogge permission to use the photo on Tnet...but probably too late for the banner by then.


    Or we could just keep this post up top until the photos come through



    -Buckles
    I'm actually going to see Tony Carlotto tomarrow to get better pics and have him forwarded to me. Maybe I'll have them tomarrow night. I'll see what he says. Hogge
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued

  18. #37
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Yeah. Uncle Wheat-O has HIS back too.
    OUR 2012 YEAR END POST IS UP!! Check it out here:
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/20...ml#post3120940

    Spring 2013 CaneField Bandits Totals:


    18th c. Engraved Silver Friendship Pendant
    1722 Colonies Francoises French 9 Deniers Copper
    "Le Bon Temps" Pocketwatch Winder
    1774 Two Reales
    1797 One Real
    1831 Mexican Republic One Real
    Four dateless Half Reales
    1740, 1799, 1807, and 1811 Half Reales
    1840-O Seated Half Dollar with MS details
    1847-O Seated Quarter with AU-50 details
    1838 Seated Dime
    1840-O and 1853-O Seated Half Dimes
    1824 Matron Head LC
    Dateless Matron Head LC
    Regiment of Artillery button (1811-1813)
    1812 era Artillery button
    One piece Eagle General Militia button(GI56)
    1700s Navy Cuff Button
    pre-CW Navy Cuff Button
    GS Eagle Button
    .31 cal. Brass Bullet Mold
    1873, 186?, and 18?? Shield Nickels
    1884 and 1905 V Nickels
    1908-D Barber Dime
    Trade Beads, Musketballs, Minieballs, etc.

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds signatures were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  19. #38

    Oct 2006
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Wow, Hogge. You really are on a roll lately! What a find!

    I'll likely be at the C4 Con. at least one day. What day or days are you going?

    _Rich_
    (Is the frog boiled yet?)

  20. #39

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackX
    Wow, Hogge. You really are on a roll lately! What a find!

    I'll likely be at the C4 Con. at least one day. What day or days are you going?

    _Rich_
    Definitely be there on Sat. Probably be there all day to make a nice day of it, see lots of rare coinage, meet people, and have a nice dinner. 2 1/2-3 hr. drive. Hope to see ya there!
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued

  21. #40

    Jan 2006
    Vermont
    dfx
    103

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Hogge my son found a 1778 KING GEORGIVS last sat in east bethel vermont by a church that was built in 1883?what givs with the georgivs up here in new england this year?

 

 
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