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  1. #46
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Great find

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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    If that coin is Identified correctly, it is the MORE VALUABLE than ANYTHING currently on the Banner right now.


    Get it up top!



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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    I seen this coin!!!! and yup its a backwards "S" for sure!
    Banner im thinking
    Golden1

  4. #49

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Dropped the coin off to Tony Carlotto today. He's going to put all his photography skills to work and get better pics. Both for the forum and C4 newsletter. He is also getting weight, diameter, and die rotation for the guys at Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4). My dream in metal detecting has come true! I found a rare coin.
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued

  5. #50

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by hogge
    Dropped the coin off to Tony Carlotto today. He's going to put all his photography skills to work and get better pics. Both for the forum and C4 newsletter. He is also getting weight, diameter, and die rotation for the guys at Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4). My dream in metal detecting has come true! I found a rare coin.
    You sure did you *%^%>>$$$<<<#%# !

  6. #51

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by hogge
    Dropped the coin off to Tony Carlotto today. He's going to put all his photography skills to work and get better pics. Both for the forum and C4 newsletter. He is also getting weight, diameter, and die rotation for the guys at Colonial Coin Collectors Club (C4). My dream in metal detecting has come true! I found a rare coin.
    You sure did you *%^%>>$$$<<<#%# !
    I will second that!

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  7. #52
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    all i can say is wow that is awesome

  8. #53

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    OK folks, hang on to your hats, Iron Patch found this on Stacks Auction website. It seems the coin that Hogge found, has topped his Vermont Ryder 7 for rarity and value.

    The Ringo 23-83A is perhaps one of only three known and this one on the auction site is basically the only other one that most have ever seen a photo of, that is until Hoge's find. Read what is said about the coin, and the one in this auction WAS A GROUND FOUND!

    I hope the updated photos from Tony do the coin justice and congratulations to Hogge on two great finds in roughly a month period. This find is a BANNER FIND in my opinion.
    http://www.stacks.com/lotdetail.aspx...087873&fs=true

    Text from the website follows, but please look at the auction site for the price realized $$$$$ and photographs of the one sold.

    1783 contemporary imitation halfpenny. Ringo 25-83A. George III English type. Fine to Very Fine.

    95.2 grains. A star among Mike's counterfeits, a prime specimen of this rare variety. Dark glossy olive green with light brown devices on a slightly oblong planchet. Patina consistent with a ground find, glossy despite microscopic granularity. The obverse legend is essentially complete, including the backwards S in GEORGIVS, though R of REX is obliterated by a swelling that is connected to a break at the nose. The portrait, often-compared to Connecticut M. 2.3-T among scholars of the series, is relatively well-defined. (Bidders will recall that CT M. 2.3-T sold in the Ford IX sale for a stout $92,000). The similarity of the maxillofacial structures of this variety and Miller 2.3-T are easy to recognize, as is the exaggerated base of Britannia's shield and the "lollipop tree" look of the olive branch on the reverse. The reverse figure is as crude as any in the series, with a squat neck, fat forearm and three-fingered hand, and unusual shield. Striking softness eliminates the legs of Britannia and 17 of the date, but the distinctive 83 is clear to the naked eye.

    Called Rarity-8 by Ringo, there appear to be just a few specimens from these dies known today. It has long been one of the most famous pieces in the Ringo Collection, here offered for the first time at public auction.


    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  9. #54

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!




    Yeah that's the kicker, it's a dug coin!

  10. #55
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    HOLY CRAP!! Almost 11,000.00 .. I was thinking maybe 2,000 at most... OMG That is 1000% awesome Hogge!!! I don't know what else to say.. you found something all of us detectors dream about finding everytime we hear a high tone...
    some people call me the creeper ,cuz they don't know my name or face - Alice Cooper

  11. #56

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    Tony is going to take pics tonight. He said he has some stuff that may help clean it a little better. I trust him and told him to do what he can to get better pics. I'm sure that if anyone knows about cleaning old coins it would be him. Will pic coin up again on Fri. when I'm in the area. I think he is going to forward pics to Don in SJ, Gary Trudgen, and Byron Weston along with myself. As soon as I get them I'll update. Hogge
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued

  12. #57

    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    My last try for the banner, even made a pic.

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  13. #58
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    Mar 2008
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    Re: 1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

    hi all,i go with hogge quite often ,and i would always find something good and he would always say to me you lucky ____ yea thats a bad word.well the luck is going both ways now ,it must be his time and he has been getting lucky ,but thats a good thing you should have seen this hole i found barly a foot deep ,but you could see a rock formation half burried in the dirt,as i yelled for him to come over and look he said i would never have saw that,i may have helped with the finding of that coin,but im very happy for him,its always great to see your friends excited about what they dig up,and what a rare coin congrats and show him the money rich

  14. #59

    Update: 25-83A going to "Stacks Americana Auction" Jan.15-16 2009

    My other post is cluttered so I made a new one with the pics from Tony Carlotto. I guess there was alot of crud on it Hah? the pics from Tony look like the coin is "pitted". Trust me , It's NOT! Has to do with the lighting he used. Hogge PS. Tony said this coin went into the ground in excellent condition. You should see it under magnification! UPDATE: My brother in law and myself attended the C4 Convention in Boston on Sat Nov. 15th. After talking with David Palmer, Tony Carlotto, Richard August, Ray Williams, Syd Martin (owner of the "Ringo 25-83A"), Mr. Gellman, Mr. McCawley, "Copper" Clem, and several others, we decided to go to auction with Stacks. We both liked what Frank Van Valen had to say and decided to go that route. There was quite a bit of attention this coin recieved and a Mr. Howe of the C4 club took some digital photos of it, hopefully to be put into the C4 newsletter. We had an excellent experience. Everyone was very courteous and helpful in guiding us to our decision. We received a couple of very attractive offers but chose to sell in the well publicised "Americana Auction" with Stacks in Jan. 2009. One of the last people we spoke to, a younger gentleman with a few of Mike Ringos' coins in his case said, " You will see my paddle going up on this one!". He said this even before he looked at it. So the interest in our coin is there, just had to show it around a bit. Good Luck to All and HH! Hogge
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  15. #60
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    Re: Update: PICS 1783 Ringo 25-83A

    way to go on that beautiful coin !!!!
    ALLEN

 

 
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