1783 King George III "GEORGIVS" backwards "S" UPDATE ID 25-83A OMG!

[Iron Patch]

Man, you're laughing!

If this does not make the banner now I will consider a banner boycott on my killer find from this weekend.

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[Colonial Copper Zeus]

He cleaned up magnificently. Congratulations Hogge.
Chris

[Golden1]

Sweet!!!!!!

Call ya about Sundays hunt..........

[Mirage]

Sweet!!!!!!

Call ya about Sundays hunt..........

Call me too.

Looks good Hogge.

[Golden1]

Sweet!!!!!!

Call ya about Sundays hunt..........

Call me too.

Looks good Hogge.

Any time Mirage we have the spots!

[cavers5]

I honestly can't understand why this hasn't been put on Banner!

VERY DESERVING OF BANNER!!!

Cavers5

[BuckleBoy]

Well--after cleaning and better photos, that is probably the Finest example known. And now it is clearly MORE than a $10,000 coin.


Unbelievable.


And yes--if this one doesn't go BANNER, I've lost all faith.



-Buckles

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

In the end you know you have something special . The banner is vanity in the extreme. Never made it...Don't care to. Take it from a Copper hunter. You made my copper banner.
Chris

[hogge]

All you guy's that have commented on my posts I consider as extremely high praise. IP, Don in SJ, Buckleboy, Colonial Zeus, Golden1, Mirage, Caver's, and MY personal favorite- Nick Pappagiorgio! (I left a ton of others out) You guy's seem to know about ALL the old places, relics and coins, and how hard it truly is to find these things at old foundations. I've hunted for 10yrs. now and it's not just about fumbling around a spot. I examine a spot, look for high traffic areas, and stick around these. The well, privy, breaks in walls to fields, small rock enclosures, and little walkways is where I stick. Back and forth, side to side and back again in small 20' by 20' areas seems to work out for me good. It's ok to wander and explore but I found you miss alot of area doing this. I've missed stuff 2-3 times in the same spot, go back at a different angle and turn up the sensitivity and BANG the target is there. I actually learned this tactic by being a member here and picking up on tips and stratagies other people use. AND IT WORKS! God, I love this site! There is ALOT more hidden treasure out there guys, lets see what the weekend brings! I think I'll make the banner. GOOD LUCK! "The HOGGESTER"

[hogge]

After I posted the last post I checked my Lottery #'s from last night. Missed it by THAT much! Winning #'s were 1-9-17-25-31. 3rd time I've hit 4 out of 5. I get $250 for this but $100,000 would have been nice. My luck continues! This is Mass. State Lottery. Mass Cash game.

[hogge]

Iron Patch sent me the second example from a Stacks auction in January 08 which sold for $10,900+ realized. With buyers premium around $12,000. This particular one was, in fact, a ground found piece. The example I have, is clearly, a better example, and possibly, the best example known of the 3 to exist. I haven't, as of yet, seen the other piece. Tell me what you all think. Hogge

[sniffer]

the definition and details are in very good shape. I would check into preserving it or Christie's for auction JMO

[Iron Patch]

I can't believe the lack of interest in this find! A couple gold rings and the replies fly yet a coin potentially worth thousands not only doesn't make it on the banner, but few people even seem to care! (is it because it's not pretty and shiny??) I bet that would change a little had they dug it. Definitely one of the top finds on the T-net this year, maybe the best.

[BuckleBoy]

I can't believe the lack of interest in this find! A couple gold rings and the replies fly yet a coin potentially worth thousands not only doesn't make it on the banner, but few people even seem to care! (is it because it's not pretty and shiny??) I bet that would change a little had they dug it. Definitely one of the top finds on the T-net this year, maybe the best.

I agree! Obviously the term "value" has a different meaning across the metal detecting community... I'd like to see a ring that had this much Historical Value--let alone monetary value.


I think you've posted this coin several times, Hogge--and never much interest. Damned shame.



-Buckles

[skunemonk]

GREAT FIND! Congrats on a very rare find.

[warsawdaddy]

It is a unique coin and in great shape.Did you find this coin while detecting?If not,maybe that is one reason the interest is down.Tell us the whole story of how you got it.

[hogge]

It is a unique coin and in great shape.Did you find this coin while detecting?If not,maybe that is one reason the interest is down.Tell us the whole story of how you got it.

Me and DigginitRTB were detecting an area we frequent quite a bit. We had noticed a stone wall in between 2 known foundations but always thought it was part of either one. On our way back through we decided to check it out. He went on one side of the wall and I went the other. Within a couple minutes I could hear him yelling. "Hey, bring the 4 wheeler over here! I think I found a cellar hole." Upon arriving, I examined a very small, shallow, but squared out with stone, hole. You would never have noticed this thing from the trail we travel on unless you were actually close to it. Behind the hole was another squared out area, which appeared to be maybe the front of the house. Possibly where horses were stopped and tied or something. The spot is only like 20' by 20' square almost against the foundation. These are the little high traffic areas I like to hunt back and forth on at all different angles. Within 5 mins got a bottle cap signal at 4-6". Rich was unsure his detector was working correctly so before I dug he wanted to see what his read. "Yep....Bottle cap reading" ok he said. So I dug and the rest is history! I keep saying this.....But it's not ALL luck. When you hit an old spot examine the place and look for high traffic areas and go back and forth at different angles.(Learned this tactic from Iron Patch as I saw in one of his posts what he found in a very small area). It can get boring in you want to wander like DigginitRTB does, but the rewards are great. You have to have patience. Hit spots again and again, year after year. The good stuff is there, it just shifts in the ground constantly. Frost, rain, different soils, all determine what that relic or coin does from week to week, year to year. One day you miss it, the next you pick it up! Persistance and patience.

[hogge]

I can't believe the lack of interest in this find! A couple gold rings and the replies fly yet a coin potentially worth thousands not only doesn't make it on the banner, but few people even seem to care! (is it because it's not pretty and shiny??) I bet that would change a little had they dug it. Definitely one of the top finds on the T-net this year, maybe the best.

Well IP, Thanks again for your support and post. We'll know for sure about value a week from Saturday as I head for the C4 in Boston. Got plenty of PM's and messages from the C4 guys this past week, as "TaxiSteve" posted my find. I can't believe the lack of interest in this find myself. But the excitement I saw in the C4 guys leads me to believe I have something REALLY special! I'll keep you personally informed. Hogge

[Mike in Berks]

hogge i'm usually only lurking on here enjoying all the great finds and comments
and always learning something new but after what Iron Pactch said i kinda felt
guilty for not replying to your post the title says it all 1 of 3 known possibly the finest
example potentially worth thousands $$ a big "CONGRATS" on your find
and the best of luck to you on the results HH

[Don in SJ]

For those of us who really know, your coin is a top notch find and is one of the top finds of the year, despite the ignorance of the vast majority. That is one reason I did not push another coin for banner that most likely will exceed your Ringo coin in value, and it was found and posted in the same time frame. (IP knows which one I am talking about)

The values posted by those who find jewelry is not what the piece will fetch selling it outright or even at auction and yet, because it is pretty, the comments abound. The history of our older coins is priceless and the fact that some, despite not being the prettiest coin in the world makes finding them all the more great. There are not too many ground found coppers that can demand such amounts, since corrosion is almost always present to some degree, but when rarity is there, and I mean true rarity, not supply and demand rarity like a 1916D Mercury Dime (264 thousand minted) then the praise should be given for such finds.

I have a colonial I found earlier last year that even most of the colonial collectors missed for what it was, and now it is going to be in a CNL article along with the few others known to exist(1 or 3 or more), so those coins are out there and posting on forums like this will expose them to the world which is good. Who knows how many rare old coppers are sitting in someone's finds pile for those who never really clean them off enough to look at closely. Many rare coins are out there and are being found each month by detectorists so always check your finds carefully...

As far as the lack of interest on this find, sometimes a key word in the initial title is important, sometimes the photographs have to be just right and sometimes I have not a clue why some posts get zillions of hits and others that seem to me more of substance get almost ignored.
But, as long as we know a few who do reply that know what they are talking about, well, that is what really matters, not a couple dozen , "great coin" replies from just about anybody..........

Don