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    1787 New York Copper

    Hi everyone, i got permission to search a circa 1810 farmhouse this week I was searching it today
    and after digging lots of clad coins i got a penny reading at 4 1/2 inches pulled out a copper coin
    and i used some water on a rag to get some detail so i'd have an idea of what i had i searched a
    while longer drove home and i was ready to post it in the Coin Forum but decided to get my
    Redbook out and there it was in "Post Colonial Issues"
    1787 NOVA EBORAC Reverse, Seated Figure Facing Right
    my oldest and best find of the year............so far i'm not sure if their's a date under the crud
    and i'm afraid to clean it anyone know if it's a common coin ? or is it a rare one ?
    any T Net people ever dig one of these ?
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    Mike HH

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    sweet coin dude....

  3. #3
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
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    I've been on the forum since last August and I cant remember A Nova Eborac being posted. First one I've seen. Congrats. My colonial fever is starting to act up.
    Best Finds:

    1786 Vermont Landscape Copper (Ryder 7 variety)
    1787 Vermont Copper
    1787 New Jersey Copper (Maris 63 variety)
    1797 and 1804 DBLCs
    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
    Hard Times Tokens---2
    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
    War Of 1812 Shoulder Belt Plate

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    Re: Saved from Demolition

    Definately a NICE save!

  5. #5

    Feb 2007
    Rhode Island
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    Re: Saved from Demolition

    awesome old copper...congrats!

  6. #6
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    Upstate NY
    Whites DFX (with 4x6 shooter DD coil and 12" spider coil), Minelab Rocco 2700. (E-Trac)
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    Re: Saved from Demolition

    Don in SJ is great ay attributing varieties of colonial coins. Hopefully he'll be able to pick out enough detail in your coin to help here. Oh yeah, you'd probably get alot more views of your thread if you put 1787 Nova Eborac copper in your post title. Not that I'm saying more views=better find.....your find is a great one in my opinion no matter how many views you get.

    Rob
    Best Finds:

    1786 Vermont Landscape Copper (Ryder 7 variety)
    1787 Vermont Copper
    1787 New Jersey Copper (Maris 63 variety)
    1797 and 1804 DBLCs
    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
    Hard Times Tokens---2
    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
    War Of 1812 Shoulder Belt Plate

  7. #7
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    My Find of a Lifetime!

    Oct 2006
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    Re: Saved from Demolition

    Great going on the copper!!! I also don't recall seeing a NY copper posted on TNet. If I were you, I would follow the cleaning methods in Don's post; http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,39135.0.html.

    There is some great information on the 1787 Nova Eborac Copper on the Notre Dame website here: http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColC...bor.intro.html

    Congratulations on a great find. I would love to see this coin on the banner after it is all cleaned up!!

    Neil

  8. #8
    So many old sites to hunt....so little time.

    Aug 2007
    Upstate NY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolution
    Don in SJ is great ay attributing varieties of colonial coins. Hopefully he'll be able to pick out enough detail in your coin to help here. Oh yeah, you'd probably get alot more views of your thread if you put 1787 Nova Eborac copper in your post title. Not that I'm saying more views=better find.....your find is a great one in my opinion no matter how many views you get.

    Rob
    There you go. I like the look of the post title now.
    Best Finds:

    1786 Vermont Landscape Copper (Ryder 7 variety)
    1787 Vermont Copper
    1787 New Jersey Copper (Maris 63 variety)
    1797 and 1804 DBLCs
    George Washington Inaugural Button (GW 1 type)
    1872 Indian Head Cent (VF/EF condition)
    1866 Indian Head Cent (EF condition)
    1864 "L" Indian Head Cent
    Hard Times Tokens---2
    1840 Gen. Harrison Campaign Token
    1832 Nova Scotia Halfpenny Token
    Two cent pieces---7
    1721 King George I
    1732 King George II
    Barber Half dollars---3
    War Of 1812 Shoulder Belt Plate

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    Re: 1787 New York Copper

    Real NICE! Congrats.......Hogge
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800--** British 31st ROF Cartridge Box Plate** SOLD!! (PRIVATE AMOUNT), Vermont Ryder-3 *$1200...To be continued

  10. #10
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    Mar 2006
    South Florida east coast.
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    Re: 1787 New York Copper

    Congrats for the nice coin.WTG.

  11. #11
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    Re: Saved from Demolition

    Quote Originally Posted by Evolution
    Don in SJ is great ay attributing varieties of colonial coins. Hopefully he'll be able to pick out enough detail in your coin to help here. Oh yeah, you'd probably get alot more views of your thread if you put 1787 Nova Eborac copper in your post title. Not that I'm saying more views=better find.....your find is a great one in my opinion no matter how many views you get.

    Rob
    Thanks Much !! to diggingdeep, The Buzzard King, and 93vector
    and Thanks !! Evolution i took your advise and changed the heading
    I wish Don in SJ was my neighbor i'd be knocking on his door asking......would you be
    kind enough to clean this coin for me ? He is an expert on cleaning coppers
    I see you replied while i'm replying to your last reply i'm really slow......really slow

  12. #12
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    Sweet find Mike!! You just don't see those every day! Thanks for posting.

    Steve
    Research and ye shall find!

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    Re: 1787 New York Copper

    Looking at the picture I think it would be a big mistake to do any further cleaning. All the detail seems to be in the patina and will wash away. That condition is common here and I would probably leave it as is.

    If fact, I'll go even as far as saying I am sure cleaning will only make it worse. Look at the surface wear on the edge, the detail on that coin is just hanging on.


    They are all 1787 so not seeing the date isn't a huge deal. Also, it looks like there are only a few varieties with your's being the seated figure facing right, no real reason to risk cleaning it because even more detail wouldn't tell you anymore.

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    Re: 1787 New York Copper

    This is the reason i wrote demolition i can't get a photo of the front of the house
    so, here's one of the back the stone part being the original house it's could go down any
    day now.......progress
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    the owners had the bucks $$ they had an inground pool put in and due to re landscaping
    look at the arrow that's where i found the copper ya never know huh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil in West Jersey
    Great going on the copper!!! I also don't recall seeing a NY copper posted on TNet. If I were you, I would follow the cleaning methods in Don's post; http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...c,39135.0.html.

    There is some great information on the 1787 Nova Eborac Copper on the Notre Dame website here: http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColC...bor.intro.html

    Congratulations on a great find. I would love to see this coin on the banner after it is all cleaned up!!

    Neil
    Thanks for the link Neil I was on it previous to posting I wonder why they don't show the type i found ? ?
    there are a lot of varietys reverse left, reverse right little head, big head etc., etc.

 

 
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