Found on the 4th of July! My 13 year old son finds a GW Button!

[muttandjeeps]

On this beatiful sunny 4th of July day, my son Sam and I ventured off the beaten path to a foundation in the woods that looked promising. Nothing much seemed to want to be found until I got a small tombac button, as I'm calling out to him that I had a button, he said "me too". I'm sitting there looking at my little dime sized prize, and he starts hyperventilating and mumbling something about George Washington. Sure enough, in his hand was his prize, a GW Inaugural button. I'm sure this is a 4th he'll never forget. Happy 4th of July to all.

 

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[savant365]

Sweet I'll be the first to say Banner find Congrats, thats a great piece of history.

HH Charlie

 

[hogge]

Absolutely a Tremendous find! I hope to find one myself someday. IT'S CHRISTMAS IN JULY, AND ON THE 4th NO-LESS! Congrats and my BANNER VOTE for you! THE HOGGE

 

[fmerg]

i love finding buttons even if i know little about them
but a find like this one is some thing i dream about
i vote banner

 

[terpfan]

Awesome banner find!

 

[hogge]

This Button is classified as "5b" in Cobb's collection. There seems to be about 80 or so of these known.The one in his collection,( which was not dug), sold for $3,000. Again, my Banner vote is in!!

 

[drgest]

Uhhh. I'm almost shaking and I didn't even find it. I'll say banner for sure!

Is this it hogge?
http://historical.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6004&Lot_No=48004#Photo#

Holy crap. If it doesn't display say the price it sold for it was $7,170 after I logged in.

wow!

 

[Swingit]

Another Awesome Banner Button!!!!!!!!!!
HH!!
Swingit

 

[johnnyi]

Fantastic find muttondjeeps! As someone who was lucky enough to dig the "laurel wreath " variety of this series of buttons years ago, I have a personal affection for them, and I think there's more history locked into such a small piece of brass than any other "non-pesonal" object we could find, except perhaps a silver center cent (that's next for your son!)

I do not have access to the Cobb collection, however when looking through Albert's "Record of American Uniform and Historical Buttons" I see something curious. This button of your son's does not match any of them exactly, neither the 11A variety (the contemporary button with close spacing) or even the WC, B, C, or R, (the last of which are considered non-contemporary)

Although your son's button seems to be a wide spaced variety, the amount of corrosion and wear make it unlikely that it is not contemporary.

Beyond that though, the upper horizontal "flag" on the left arm of the "W" is clearly thick, while on every other example listed in Albert's it is thin. This seems to distinguish it as a button yet to be recorded, but probably genuine none the less.

Yet another distinguishing feature of your son's button is the cross hatched background, which does not seem to be evident on the Albert examples.

Anyway, I think your button is wonderful, probably uinique, and I will as my first task as a new member of the forum, vote for it!

(now I'm going to post a button find I made a couple weeks ago which is entirely different)

 

[Mental Granny]

WOW! Congrats to your son (your button too!) But, a special to your son, your right he will remember this 4th of July always, a fantastic find and real special today!....

 

[dwayne sueno]

awesome button. banner for sure. dwayne

 

[hogge]

Uhhh. I'm almost shaking and I didn't even find it. I'll say banner for sure!

Is this it hogge?
http://historical.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6004&Lot_No=48004#Photo#

Holy crap. If it doesn't display say the price it sold for it was $7,170 after I logged in.

wow!

Nope....Not correct. The one you have pictured is classified as a "5". Brass with narrow spacing which is the more valuable of the varieties. His is a "5b", or brass with wide spacing. Being "non-dug", the one you showed will bring a premium price. The one he has, being dug, you take half off the value of a non-dug piece right away. Geez, I'd hate to be "misquoted"or, misinterpreted, by some of the other members on here, by putting my "2 cents" in on value. ( I think we all know where this came from). IT IS A TREMENDOUS FIND, AND A TRUE BANNER FIND!!!!!! If mutton would want to PM me, I could give him an estimate of auction value.

 

[oddcoins]

THAT IS SO FRIGGIN' AWESOME!!!


BANNER ~ BANNER ~ BANNER ~ BANNER!

 

[Digger USA]

Congratulations to Sam on yet another great find. And congratulations to you for finding a hobby that you could enjoy with your son. If you guys keep this up, TNet is going to have to start charging you rent for the Banner spots you've earned!
Seriously, this Independence Day is certainly one you will remember. Thanks for the phone call. I could definitely hear the excitement in both your voices! HH Randy

 

[dfx willy]

wow awesome find!!!!! banner. willy.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Fantastic find muttondjeeps! As someone who was lucky enough to dig the "laurel wreath " variety of this series of buttons years ago, I have a personal affection for them, and I think there's more history locked into such a small piece of brass than any other "non-pesonal" object we could find, except perhaps a silver center cent (that's next for your son!)

I do not have access to the Cobb collection, however when looking through Albert's "Record of American Uniform and Historical Buttons" I see something curious. This button of your son's does not match any of them exactly, neither the 11A variety (the contemporary button with close spacing) or even the WC, B, C, or R, (the last of which are considered non-contemporary)

Although your son's button seems to be a wide spaced variety, the amount of corrosion and wear make it unlikely that it is not contemporary.

Beyond that though, the upper horizontal "flag" on the left arm of the "W" is clearly thick, while on every other example listed in Albert's it is thin. This seems to distinguish it as a button yet to be recorded, but probably genuine none the less.

Yet another distinguishing feature of your son's button is the cross hatched background, which does not seem to be evident on the Albert examples.

Anyway, I think your button is wonderful, probably uinique, and I will as my first task as a new member of the forum, vote for it!

(now I'm going to post a button find I made a couple weeks ago which is entirely different)

Agreed. This is an exciting find! The cross-hatching resembles the 5e WITH the upper die strike.


One thing is for certain, do not clean this find any further. And a BIG congratulations, on July 4th to boot.

 

[jrsherman]

Amazingly tied find to today, congratulations to you and your son! oh, and BANNER!!

 

[hogge]

Fantastic find muttondjeeps! As someone who was lucky enough to dig the "laurel wreath " variety of this series of buttons years ago, I have a personal affection for them, and I think there's more history locked into such a small piece of brass than any other "non-pesonal" object we could find, except perhaps a silver center cent (that's next for your son!)

I do not have access to the Cobb collection, however when looking through Albert's "Record of American Uniform and Historical Buttons" I see something curious. This button of your son's does not match any of them exactly, neither the 11A variety (the contemporary button with close spacing) or even the WC, B, C, or R, (the last of which are considered non-contemporary)

Although your son's button seems to be a wide spaced variety, the amount of corrosion and wear make it unlikely that it is not contemporary.

Beyond that though, the upper horizontal "flag" on the left arm of the "W" is clearly thick, while on every other example listed in Albert's it is thin. This seems to distinguish it as a button yet to be recorded, but probably genuine none the less.

Yet another distinguishing feature of your son's button is the cross hatched background, which does not seem to be evident on the Albert examples.

Anyway, I think your button is wonderful, probably uinique, and I will as my first task as a new member of the forum, vote for it!

(now I'm going to post a button find I made a couple weeks ago which is entirely different)

Agreed. This is an exciting find! The cross-hatching resembles the 5e WITH the upper die strike.


One thing is for certain, do not clean this find any further. And a BIG congratulations, on July 4th to boot.

To access J. Harold Cobbs collection, and a closeup of 5b, with thatching, just Goggle it. Go to the colored picks and it will be in the 9 o'clock position, to the left of the Liberty Cap Var. Please also note the bottom of the "G" as it is slightly cut off, or straight as is the button just found. Also note the upper flag of "W" is thick. I don't have access to Alberts, but from the Cobb Collection, it IS an exact match. Sorry to disagree but, it is what it is. 5b. P. S. Could someone please send me a pic of the "E" variety in Alberts you're looking at?

 

[texan connection]

amazing and congratulations, what a GREAT American Independence day find

 

[Iron Patch]

Can't get much better for a 4th find!


Banner all the way!