1787 NJ copper,1818 LC and a button

kieser sousa/rip · Oct 3, 2009

Hi all.The rain finaly quit here so I headed out early this morning to a friends 1800's house.Poked around there for awile with nothing to show but some clad so I headed to the site wer I recently found a Fugio cent.I was there mabey 5 min's and my buddy's Dano and young Danil showed up.Young Danil wasent there more than 5 min's and found his first LC !! 17 something,still waiting to hear from Dano as to the year.WTG young Danil the LC findin man !!! I wandered around for awile and found a large flatbutton and then an 1818 LC.I was getting tired and hungry and was about to give up when I got a shallow signal that I thought was going to be a clad Quarter.Dug around and out popped a sweet NJ copper. I put a big scratch in it...thats what I get for being careless.I'm sick over that one..darn it darn it darn it !!!!! Thats the second nice coin that I've scratched this year.Lesson learned...I hope.

dfx willy · Oct 3, 2009

very nice!!! willy.

collector01 · Oct 3, 2009

Great looking finds, the coppers are in great shape. Congrats on a great hunt! :thumbsup:

johnnyi · Oct 3, 2009

Beautiful coin KS. Don will get a kick out of this when he sees it. It seems to be the outlined shild variety (1787), yet the coulter seems farther forward than the ones listed in my Yeoman's, and the front looks more like the coulter and head of the 1786?

Iron Patch · Oct 3, 2009

johnnyi said:
Beautiful coin KS. Don will get a kick out of this when he sees it. It seems to be the outlined shild variety (1887), yet the coulter seems farther forward than the ones listed in my Yeoman's, and the front looks more like the coulter and head of the 1886?

I think he'll get a kick out of your dates even more.

Good dig!

Don in SJ · Oct 3, 2009

Sorry about the scratch but "stuff" happens. Your NJ is a Maris 48-g variety, Very Common. I noticed some ole guys have trouble with fat fingers typing dates! :tongue3:

Good hunt for sure and will PM you shortly asking some info for my survey..

Don

DigginThePast · Oct 3, 2009

Great finds! I just love those old coppers. Hope your source keeps producing. :thumbsup:

kieser sousa/rip · Oct 3, 2009

dfx willy said:
very nice!!! willy.

Thanks Willy.

collector01 said:
Great looking finds, the coppers are in great shape. Congrats on a great hunt!

Thanks collector.

johnnyi said:
Beautiful coin KS. Don will get a kick out of this when he sees it. It seems to be the outlined shild variety (1887), yet the coulter seems farther forward than the ones listed in my Yeoman's, and the front looks more like the coulter and head of the 1886?

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Thanks Johnny.Yes I think it's the oulined sheild also from 1787. I just pm'ed Don so he could add it to his distribution study.

Iron Patch said:
johnnyi said:

Beautiful coin KS. Don will get a kick out of this when he sees it. It seems to be the outlined shild variety (1887), yet the coulter seems farther forward than the ones listed in my Yeoman's, and the front looks more like the coulter and head of the 1886?

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I think he'll get a kick out of your dates even more.

Good dig!

Thanks Ironpatch.

Don in SJ said:
Sorry about the scratch but "stuff" happens. Your NJ is a Maris 48-g variety, Very Common. I noticed some ole guys have trouble with fat fingers typing dates!

Good hunt for sure and will PM you shortly asking some info for my survey..

Don

Thanks Don.Glad to help.

kieser sousa/rip · Oct 3, 2009

DigginThePast said:
Great finds! I just love those old coppers. Hope your source keeps producing.

Thanks diggin.

johnnyi · Oct 3, 2009

"I noticed some ole guys have trouble with fat fingers typing dates! " Thanks for the heads up! :tongue3:

Don, why does Yeoman not list the outlined shield under 1786 varieties?

rjw4law · Oct 3, 2009

The East coast is so much richer in treasures...inspires me alot.

Don in SJ · Oct 3, 2009

johnnyi said:
"I noticed some ole guys have trouble with fat fingers typing dates! " Thanks for the heads up!

Don, why does Yeoman not list the outlined shield under 1786 varieties?

John, I don't use Redbook for identifying varieites, since it is too general of a book for that, so I have no idea. But even coinfacts does not list it as an outlined shield, only a few other varieties, I just look at my NJ variety chart I have hanging on the wall and match the features. Out of about 150 varieties, when that much detail is showing it only takes a couple minutes of comparing...........

Don

allen · Oct 3, 2009

you just keep finding those nice oldies !! :thumbsup:

Evolution · Oct 3, 2009

Beautiful Jersey copper. :icon_sunny:

I was fortunate enough to find one as well last year. Don included that one in his survey too. Great job as usual on the I D Don. :thumbsup:

rogues71 · Oct 3, 2009

gratz on the old copper wtg

Colonial Copper Zeus · Oct 3, 2009

Scratch or not it's a fabulous find. The LC is in good shape also. What detail on the Dandy button. Congratulations.
Chris

kieser sousa/rip · Oct 3, 2009

Thanks y'all.

This is my second NJ copper.The first was in really bad shape so I'm really happy with this one.........and Don were can I get onea them chart's ....so I don't have to keep buggin ya everytime I find one. ::)

Still waiting on the date from Young Danil's LC...we thought we could see 179... ! I'm hoping Dano will post some pic's ( hint hint)

hogge · Oct 3, 2009

Congrats on a great looking state copper! Hogge :headbang:

Don in SJ · Oct 3, 2009

kieser sousa/rip said:
Thanks y'all. This is my second NJ copper.The first was in really bad shape so I'm really happy with this one.........and Don were can I get onea them chart's ....so I don't have to keep buggin ya everytime I find one.
Still waiting on the date from Young Danil's LC...we thought we could see 179... ! I'm hoping Dano will post some pic's ( hint hint)

My chart was a special gift from a very nice NJ collector and I am sure it was a limited edition thing. Just using Coinfacts.com and the Notre Dame site listing of variety charts should suffice, having the chart saves me the time of looking indiviidually, since I can scan all varieites on on big frame.
http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinContents/DieCharts.html

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/new_jersey_coppers/new_jersey_coppers.htm

Don

kieser sousa/rip · Oct 3, 2009

Don in SJ said:
kieser sousa/rip said:

Thanks y'all. This is my second NJ copper.The first was in really bad shape so I'm really happy with this one.........and Don were can I get onea them chart's ....so I don't have to keep buggin ya everytime I find one.
Still waiting on the date from Young Danil's LC...we thought we could see 179... ! I'm hoping Dano will post some pic's ( hint hint)

Click to expand...

My chart was a special gift from a very nice NJ collector and I am sure it was a limited edition thing. Just using Coinfacts.com and the Notre Dame site listing of variety charts should suffice, having the chart saves me the time of looking indiviidually, since I can scan all varieites on on big frame.
http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinContents/DieCharts.html

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/new_jersey_coppers/new_jersey_coppers.htm

Don

Thanks Don. :thumbsup:

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