"Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

CheathamHill

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"Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

'Howdy'! I have been a salivating lurker for a while now..one of the silent variety who likes to gawk at things you guys find that I haven't a clue how to even START looking for. Heck....I don't even own one of them there "detectin' boxes" and at the present moment wouldn't know how to use it if I did..HOWEVER, that will change soon as I have just recently moved to a nice place on the banks of the Chattahoochee River where Sherman's army crossed and patrolled in July of '64. The bad news is on this bank it's mostly apartment complexes and restaurants..and interstates..and directly across the river on the other bank, where Schofield's army camped and skirmished, is all multi-million dollar homes and neighborhoods....the good news: a man can still dream of finding something right :D ?

Okay now to my "find(s)"

Okay I lied...a tad bit more back story...

I am currently in the research and early writing stages of a book about a specific point of a local battlefield that was very brutal, bloody, violent and yet captivating, that lay smack dab between here where I live and another of my favorite similar fields listed as my username

I go to this location 3-5 times a week after work to clear my mind and walk the grounds, take pictures for my research, examine maps and illustrations and first hand accounts I've accumulated along the way while walking the battlefield..I am also working on a computer generated 2D and "3D" map of this location as to how it looked in 1864, so I walk as much of the battlefield daily as I can....
On this particular occasion I was in the creek that played a major role in this battle trying to determine where it originally flowed in relation to troop movement, retreat etc, and to where the Civilian Conservation Corps did some erosion work and re-routed part of it in the first half of the 20th century. Whle examining some of the stone work in the "erosion" area I looked down at the 'sand bar' I was standing on where the water had recently receeded after the flooding and saw something that didn't look like a normal flat river rock.

I was convinced that there would be no way that a famous location like this might still contain items on the "surface" in plain view. I am also not sure if this isn't just a rusty rock? or Pottery? or part of an old mill that was in the location post-war?

Can metal rust so much that it looks like this? Also as you can see in one of the pictures the top left cracked a bit..upon inspecting the "innerds" it looks like rock or clay or not? However, it seems to be 'rusting' more and more hour by hour which leads me to hope it's metal.and it 'clinks'...oh and notice the raised and almost "rusted" off "lettering" that resembles part of a 'C'.
I have included different angles of it etc.

Also found something else that resembles a nice arrowhead in another part of the creek. It is not flat but angles/slopes up and down equally on both sides of the point.... could it be?

If the first item can be identified as a 'relic' it will be handled accordingly with the people I am working with on this book project including some top local historians, etc....

I apologize for being long winded..but this is a GREAT forum! If anyone can point me to a great place to find a MD in the Atlanta area and/or if anyone wants to research and rescue any local spots I will be honored....

And again, please keep saving these quickly fading links to a past that, as time rolls swiftly by, is dissapearing as quickly as the history from whence they came....
 

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Rusted_Iron

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

Great post, I like the longer ones anyway.

That is a curious object. I didn't see you post it, but does it stick to a magnet? It looks like it could be a concretion, yet it has the shape of a piece of actual iron. It's always hard to tell, also, if something like that was carried downstream from elsewhere. Context is tricky there, potentially.

I should probably have taken a more thorough look at the photos before posting, but it sounds like you have a really neat project going on there, and just wanted to give this a :icon_thumright:

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

real nice point :icon_thumleft: gotta love finding them ;D MR TUFF
 

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Mr Tuff said:
real nice point :icon_thumleft: gotta love finding them ;D MR TUFF

so I guess it IS, in fact, a point?

Again, I'm new to all of this so please forgive my novice ways...

Also as far as the mystery object from the CW battlefield, I will get a magnet tommorrow to see if it "sticks"

Can something rust/mineralize so much that it is no longer magnetic or will iron/metal always retain its metallic properties..

Considering this may have been in a creek/creek bed for 145 years, I'm just curious if it would ever cease to remain metal....

Again, I'm ignorant on the subject..but learning more here every day...so thanks for everyone's help
 

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

ha and APPARENTLY the word ig-norant is auto deleted in this forum....who knew :icon_scratch:

But that's what the deleted word was
 

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

Could it be and iron Confederate plate?
I hope so.
 

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

Your eyes seem to work almost as well as a "detectin' box" . Thats how most of us started. Find more and keep searching. You "done good "dude :thumbsup:
 

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

CheathamHill said:
Can something rust/mineralize so much that it is no longer magnetic or will iron/metal always retain its metallic properties..

It can rust away and become essentially non-metal, yes. It can become just a concretion of rust where a solid object once was. There should still be little tiny bits of iron in there somewhere, you'd think.

Looking at the on-edge view of the item, it does sort of look like a rust concretion. Unusual.
 

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

Strange :icon_scratch:
 

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

Welcome and good luck at the site.
 

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Re: "Mineralized"/Rusted Civil War belt/box plate from Battlefield? AND..an intro

If you run a magnet on or around a rusty object you will find small particles of rust sticking to it. Also there is what is called the "halo effect". When an iron object is in the ground long enough, rust leaches out into the soil around the object and it will be picked up by a metal detector. so I can't imagine a solid object rusting so bad it won't be attracted to a magnet as long as it retains a solid shape. Monty
 

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