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  1. #121
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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (9 Aug small update)

    That button would be a center piece of any collection. Fantastic!!
    God and country.

  2. #122
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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (9 Aug small update)

    That is a mighty fine button! I am partial to those War of 1812 era buttons. Much more so than the later 2 piece buttons of the civil war era.
    Spanish Silver Totals
    Cut Pieces = 19
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    1 Reals = 11
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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (9 Aug small update)

    Awesome button, congrats!!!!
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

  4. #124

    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (9 Aug small update)

    I can't believe no one mentioned the two bird dogs in the picture below the cannon balls. You just cant see the forest for the trees.

  5. #125

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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (9 Aug small update)

    I am not even going to go back and look for the phantom #'s!! Stellar find and a nice addition to your Banner ribbon!!!
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon





  6. #126

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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (UPDATED with new INFO)

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    You have my Banner vote. That is a superb button in top notch condition. Even without the shank, it will be a high-dollar find. I also want to congratulate you on the cleaning methods as well. Again--Top Notch.


    Regards,


    Buckleboy
    Buckles,am I missing something?It looks like the shank is there?
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon





  7. #127
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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (UPDATED with new INFO)

    Quote Originally Posted by ColonialDude
    Quote Originally Posted by sjarchangel
    PS. . . Many WO 1812 buttons were obtained along the Canadian Border and the "RV" indicates Relative Value. eg. "RV 100" indicates a US Dollar value of approximatley $100.00.

    SJA
    Yes, I am aware many War of 1812 buttons are found along the Canadian Border, most notably Niagara. I completely disagree with the RV-100 = $100 statement. The "RV" or "Relative Value" has no direct association with a specific dollar figure, and I believe the author states as much in his book although I don't have it handy right now. If this logic were true, a very rare political button (RV-250) that typically sells for thousands is worth a mere $250?? Not the case.
    That is what the button was worth in the 70s. Today however, its used more as a "Rarity Scale" rather than the actual value.



  8. #128
    umrgolf

    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (UPDATED with new INFO)

    Quote Originally Posted by sjarchangel
    The book I have is dated 1976. There may be other editions I'm not aware of.

    SJA :-)
    The information you gave is correct.. RV-100= $100, RV standing for relative value, was the relative value when Albert's book was first published and obviously worth much more on today's market. Congrats on the banner.

  9. #129
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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (UPDATED with new INFO)

    Quote Originally Posted by fieldslayer
    Tice is no lightweight regarding military buttons. After all , he did write a great reference book. However , his expertise seems to mainly center on Civil War buttons (I own his book), and is disappointingly lacking on earlier material, it seems. However, make no mistake about it, this is NOT a commonly found button. Other than the one in Alberts book, I have personally seen only 3 in 30 years. 1 from FL, 1 from GA, and 1 from NJ ; none have I been able to trade for as yet. It is indeed a SCREAMER of a find ! One alleged authority told the owner of one that there are approx. 20+ known examples. I have heard mixed reviews on this major dealers integrity, and do not know him personally, so take this info as you like. At any rate, $2000 seems a bit much, but all that gilt sure does'nt hurt ! Regardless, it won't sell cheap ! Hope this added experience helps. Congratulations - fieldslayer P.S. - Those who think this is a reproduction , need to stick to hunting schoolyards !
    Warren Tice is a stand up guy and if anything I believe that the price he ballparked for you may be a low-ball estimate when you consider buttons such as the Confederate "M" button which is worth about 4 to 5 thousand dollars and it isn't even as rare as this War of 1812 button apparently is....



  10. #130

    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (UPDATED with new INFO)

    Quote Originally Posted by kuger
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    You have my Banner vote. That is a superb button in top notch condition. Even without the shank, it will be a high-dollar find. I also want to congratulate you on the cleaning methods as well. Again--Top Notch.


    Regards,


    Buckleboy
    Buckles,am I missing something?It looks like the shank is there?
    yeap, the point
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  11. #131

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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (UPDATED with new INFO)

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by kuger
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy
    You have my Banner vote. That is a superb button in top notch condition. Even without the shank, it will be a high-dollar find. I also want to congratulate you on the cleaning methods as well. Again--Top Notch.


    Regards,


    Buckleboy
    Buckles,am I missing something?It looks like the shank is there?
    yeap, the point
    Obviously Cru,thanks
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon





  12. #132

    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! (9 Aug small update)

    Well for those still following this thread and are interested, here is the latest update.

    I received a copy of The National Button Bulletin, May 1962. This is the article referenced in Alberts book in regards to this button.

    I have attached a copy of the article, hopefully it works. It doesn't say a whole lot, or anything about the quantity of these buttons made, bt clearly at the time the article was written there wasn't much known as it was a relatively new discovery. It appears however there were several known examples at the time. Still a very rare button obviously, but certainly not 1 of 2.

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  13. #133
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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! NEW INFO ADDED 11 Aug 10

    sweet find
    keep it up!
    2012 finds

    40%- 88

    A lot of garage sale gold and silver!

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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! NEW INFO ADDED 11 Aug 10

    Very awesome button! Thanks ColonialDude, for posting that amazing dug piece of history!! Congrats on the banner also!!! And also, like Buckleboy said, great job on cleaning that beauty!!!!

    IM
    HRD (Happy Relic Diggin)

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    Re: Found a Very Rare Military Button! NEW INFO ADDED 11 Aug 10

    super nice button, and a banner find is indicated...but i will also agree with a few of the others...the second pic you posted does show a 123 under the cannon balls and just over the artillery letters...im really suprised you cant all see it....while some can see it and some not...does the pics of the example you found not show the 123...?...im guessing not...! strange...but not any reason to pull the pics or post is it?...hh to all...a great find my friend!

 

 
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