18th Century British Brown Bess Butt Plate and Colonial Copper
It was a Colonial kind of weekend for me. KKC got out in the fields yesterday and today. On Saturday, we hit the field that gave me my 1700s Dutch copper pipe. The farmer harvested the corn at the bottom of the ridge. The iron was intense, but I still got some relics. The find of the day was the 1700s Brown Bess butt plate (or in 2 pieces). I found them within 5-10 feet of one another. As you will notice from the pictures, the 2 parts connect perfectly. The butt plate measures at a 5 3/4" in length and 2 1/4" in width. I took a picture of a page from "Archaeological Investigation of Fort Ligonier 1960-1965" by Jacob L. Grimm to show you the one(s) he excavated. The butt plate I excavated looks very similar to the one in the book, which is from an early Brown Bess. I got the 1700s Dutch copper pipe and now this 1700s Brown Bess butt plate from this field. Wow, what a site!
I also dug the small lock plate. I believe it could have been from a Colonial pistol. It measures 2 1/4" in length. To top the day off, I dug 3 buttons.
Today, we got out to a new field in hopes of locating a site that Kyle had researched. We did not find the exact location, but I did get a badly corroded Colonial copper. It is very thin, so it is most likely a counterfeit King George III. I also found what looks like a 1600s nipple button and a couple musketballs.
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Nice finds, a copper is always a nice find no matter what the condition. I Like the butt plate, that site has given you some nice relics. cant wait to see what ya get next.
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Great looking Colonial finds there Kirk!
I love these two pieces. The button is really cool,
what do you feel the plate is from?
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Dave
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Nice bunch of finds I too am curious as to what the oval piece with two holes is These seem to get found and posted here from time to time, but I am not sure the question has been answered as to what they are.
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Nice finds Kirk. I have a piece of Brown Bess butt plate found at a French & Indian War site. It looks like one of your pieces.
Regarding the oval pieces, I have always heard they went on saddles. There was another bracket piece that matches up with the two holes in the oval. The brackets pieces are brass with designs on them and they usually have rust on the ends. I have pictures of both pieces, but they are on my computer at home. However, I still have not seen a colonial saddle with these ovals on it. I really haven't been able to find pictures of these early saddles on the internet.
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Bro, that Brown Bess butt plate is a killer find and I'm glad you found the two pieces. The broad arrow is identifiable above the bottom hole. Good eye, Keith! Awesome!
You get the weekend find. I probably won't post my beautiful 1843 Braided Hair now.
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Here is a better picture of the British broad arrow. Thank you, Keith, for that identification. You are the best! I am super thrilled about excavating this amazing relic. I could bet the farm that whomever settled at this site was a Revolutionary war patriot. Sweet! I am pumped!
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Originally Posted by Iron Patch
Didn't you used to be a coin hunter?
Give me a relic like this over a copper.
Kirk
Originally Posted by SC Keith
Great digs Kirk! I love that butt plate to the Brown Bess. I noticed the British Broad Arrow above the botton screw hole. Looking good bro!
Keith
Thanks, bro! I am pumped in a Colonial way.
Kirk
Originally Posted by Steve in PA
Nice finds Kirk. I have a piece of Brown Bess butt plate found at a French & Indian War site. It looks like one of your pieces.
Regarding the oval pieces, I have always heard they went on saddles. There was another bracket piece that matches up with the two holes in the oval. The brackets pieces are brass with designs on them and they usually have rust on the ends. I have pictures of both pieces, but they are on my computer at home. However, I still have not seen a colonial saddle with these ovals on it. I really haven't been able to find pictures of these early saddles on the internet.
I have not seen many of these posted on the forum. Banner? Nah. I am thrilled. I want more relics.
Re: 18th Century British Brown Bess Butt Plate and Colonial Copper
Originally Posted by Kirk PA
Originally Posted by Iron Patch
Didn't you used to be a coin hunter?
Give me a relic like this over a copper.
Kirk
Originally Posted by SC Keith
Great digs Kirk! I love that butt plate to the Brown Bess. I noticed the British Broad Arrow above the botton screw hole. Looking good bro!
Keith
Thanks, bro! I am pumped in a Colonial way.
Kirk
Originally Posted by Steve in PA
Nice finds Kirk. I have a piece of Brown Bess butt plate found at a French & Indian War site. It looks like one of your pieces.
Regarding the oval pieces, I have always heard they went on saddles. There was another bracket piece that matches up with the two holes in the oval. The brackets pieces are brass with designs on them and they usually have rust on the ends. I have pictures of both pieces, but they are on my computer at home. However, I still have not seen a colonial saddle with these ovals on it. I really haven't been able to find pictures of these early saddles on the internet.
I have not seen many of these posted on the forum. Banner? Nah. I am thrilled. I want more relics.
Kirk
Nice colonial finds, Kirk I dug an posted a Bess butt plate . Great to see another one dug ! Well Done 8)
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I found them within 5-10 feet of one another. As you will notice from the pictures, the 2 parts connect perfectly. The butt plate measures at a 5 3/4" in length and 2 1/4" in width. I took a picture of a page from "Archaeological Investigation of Fort Ligonier 1960-1965" by Jacob L. Grimm to show you the one(s) he excavated. The butt plate I excavated looks very similar to the one in the book, which is from an early Brown Bess. I got the 1700s Dutch copper pipe and now this 1700s Brown Bess butt plate from this field. Wow, what a site!
and a couple musketballs. 
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