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  1. #1
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    Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s

    Hi Everyone
    Back to mid 30s here in New Hampshire and a fresh blanket of snow.
    I spent 3 hours swinging at a snails pace pulling small deep targets from a site I've been hunting for a year now.
    As darkness fell, the only keepers were an 1830 1 piece Eagle A with 'United**States**' backmark, toasted, and a piece of silver thimble.
    Chilled to the bone, I was walking back to my truck swinging the detector as I went.
    by chance I got 2 more targets, what appears to be a small brass telescope, and a thoroughly encrusted coin.
    I've dug several like this, all from the same loose gravel and shell layer under the mud, after removing the crust I usually have a thin blank planchet. (see photo #8 )
    On the drive home, I notice the object is not round and I flake a piece of the edge off.
    I see what looks like the tab of a watch fob or medallion, darn!! it's not even a coin.
    I arrive home and begin cleaning finds in the sink.
    Rinsed everything but the 'watch fob', I consider taking a 'before' photo, then just rub it between my fingers under running water till the crust is mostly gone.
    I look at it under the light and see THE CROSS
    I so wish I had split the crust off carefully, there's a good chance I would have gotten 2 mirror images off of it.
    I was able to recover one fragment with partial image from the sink.
    The inside that was in contact with the silver is oily black & probably high silver content.
    Still some detail hidden on this piece, (esp, the 'non cross' side, obverse/reverse, I don't know) but I'm not sure how to proceed with cleaning.
    It weighs 10.7 grams, and rings like a bell when it touches the table.
    judging by weight I think it's a worn 4 Reale.
    I got my new 'Best Find' !!
    Anyone know an approximate date on this
    Thanks for looking and Happy Hunting to All
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  2. #2
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Anniversary Present

    Whoa ... a Spanish cob Good one Herbie
    Where Ever You Go , There You Are

  3. #3
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Anniversary Present

    WTG on the COb Brotha!
    G Grandfather John Taliaferro Stevens.
    Enlisted May 1st, 1862 with Co.B/E 51st VA Infantry.
    Taken Prisoner at princeton WV May 16th 1862, found shot in the back May 17th 1862.
    G Uncle John J.L. Stevens.
    Enlisted Feb. 10th 1863 Co. B, 8th Va Calvary

  4. #4

    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Well that might be good enough for #3!

    I'm just having my first morning coffee, so maybe not quite with it... but that weight I think is a very in between weight as far as reales go. It looks pretty good but I don't understand the weight. (But i might soon - )

    2 minutes later and a couple more gulps of coffee and >>>> My best guess is it's a clipped 4 reale, and the shape does tend to indicate there is missing metal. Bigger cobs like that aren't posted much so I would call that your number 3, but don't expect it will stop anytime soon. Quite a year you're having.

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Nice find!!! congrats on the cob! that is next on my list!
    Debby

  6. #6
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Well that might be good enough for #3!

    I'm just having my first morning coffee, so maybe not quite with it... but that weight I think is a very in between weight as far as reales go. It looks pretty good but I don't understand the weight. (But i might soon - )

    2 minutes later and a couple more gulps of coffee and >>>> My best guess is it's a clipped 4 reale, and the shape does tend to indicate there is missing metal. Bigger cobs like that aren't posted much so I would call that your number 3, but don't expect it will stop anytime soon. Quite a year you're having.
    Thanks IP,
    I Just keep Swingin, that's how to make the finds

    Strange happenings with my scale
    I put the coin back on, 10.7.
    While i'm focusing my camera, I see it slowly count down to 10.3, I use this scale frequently, it has fresh batteries and I never saw it act like that.
    Maybe it's as unacustomed as me to have hammered silver
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  7. #7

    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Well that might be good enough for #3!

    I'm just having my first morning coffee, so maybe not quite with it... but that weight I think is a very in between weight as far as reales go. It looks pretty good but I don't understand the weight. (But i might soon - )

    2 minutes later and a couple more gulps of coffee and >>>> My best guess is it's a clipped 4 reale, and the shape does tend to indicate there is missing metal. Bigger cobs like that aren't posted much so I would call that your number 3, but don't expect it will stop anytime soon. Quite a year you're having.
    Strange happenings with my scale
    I put the coin back on, 10.7.
    While i'm focusing my camera, I see it slowly count down to 10.3, I use this scale frequently, it has fresh batteries and I never saw it act like that.
    Maybe it's as unacustomed as me to have hammered silver

    Still way under.



    * 8 Reales (cob) = 27.3 grams [0.96 ounces] (also known as Pieces of Eight)
    * 4 Reales (cob) = 13.65 grams [0.48 ounces]
    * 2 Reales (cob) = 6.825 grams [0.24 ounces]
    * 1 Real (cob) = 3.4125 grams [0.12 ounces]
    * 1/2 Real (cob) = 1.70625 grams [0.06 ounces]
    * 1/4 Real (cob) = 0.853125 grams [0.03 ounces]

  8. #8
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Killer Herbie,
    You strike again. Loving the cob man and yes it's a little lite for a four but not uncommon.And think that's what it is. Looks like phillip IV.
    Take Care,
    Pete,
    http://www.sedwickcoins.com/treasure...shipwreck1.htm
    Them Colonials​Can't Hide Nowhere Now!

  9. #9
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Desire is oft more pleasant than acquisition

  10. #10
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Them Colonials​Can't Hide Nowhere Now!

  11. #11

    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Seen one other which is his avatar, and now that I said it, you'll remember or notice when you see a post. I'm not good remembering user names but he is a regular on here.

  12. #12
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Killer Herbie,
    You strike again. Loving the cob man and yes it's a little lite for a four but not uncommon.And think that's what it is. Looks like phillip IV.
    Take Care,
    Pete,
    http://www.sedwickcoins.com/treasure...shipwreck1.htm
    Yes, I think you're right on with the id Pete... It's looks just like the cross on my Philip IV.. NH gives up a mid-1600's silver You are on freakin fire man

  13. #13
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Seen one other which is his avatar, and now that I said it, you'll remember or notice when you see a post. I'm not good remembering user names but he is a regular on here.
    Also lot # 585 Herbie looks like your to the tee as far as I can tell even the same weight.
    Yes Ip,
    Not something I see much at all on here & I'll look for the avatar.Can't place it right off But the only others are ones like that site salvaged from ship wrecks that I see.
    Take Care,
    Pete,
    Them Colonials​Can't Hide Nowhere Now!

  14. #14
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    I'm gonna pop you a Banner Vote for that one Herbie. Even though I've missed it myself a couple times with cobs Maybe the banner train will find it's way to you.
    Take Care,
    Pete,
    Them Colonials​Can't Hide Nowhere Now!

  15. #15

    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Seen one other which is his avatar, and now that I said it, you'll remember or notice when you see a post. I'm not good remembering user names but he is a regular on here.
    Also lot # 585 Herbie looks like your to the tee as far as I can tell even the same weight.
    Yes Ip,
    Not something I see much at all on here & I'll look for the avatar.Can't place it right off But the only others are ones like that site salvaged from ship wrecks that I see.
    Take Care,
    Pete,

    He's from NJ I believe, and it looks kinda green in the picture..... you will know him and it when you see! I'd find it, but have to get a few things done. He'll probably see this post anyway.

 

 
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