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    Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s

    Hi Everyone
    Back to mid 30s here in New Hampshire and a fresh blanket of snow.
    I spent 3 hours swinging at a snails pace pulling small deep targets from a site I've been hunting for a year now.
    As darkness fell, the only keepers were an 1830 1 piece Eagle A with 'United**States**' backmark, toasted, and a piece of silver thimble.
    Chilled to the bone, I was walking back to my truck swinging the detector as I went.
    by chance I got 2 more targets, what appears to be a small brass telescope, and a thoroughly encrusted coin.
    I've dug several like this, all from the same loose gravel and shell layer under the mud, after removing the crust I usually have a thin blank planchet. (see photo #8 )
    On the drive home, I notice the object is not round and I flake a piece of the edge off.
    I see what looks like the tab of a watch fob or medallion, darn!! it's not even a coin.
    I arrive home and begin cleaning finds in the sink.
    Rinsed everything but the 'watch fob', I consider taking a 'before' photo, then just rub it between my fingers under running water till the crust is mostly gone.
    I look at it under the light and see THE CROSS
    I so wish I had split the crust off carefully, there's a good chance I would have gotten 2 mirror images off of it.
    I was able to recover one fragment with partial image from the sink.
    The inside that was in contact with the silver is oily black & probably high silver content.
    Still some detail hidden on this piece, (esp, the 'non cross' side, obverse/reverse, I don't know) but I'm not sure how to proceed with cleaning.
    It weighs 10.7 grams, and rings like a bell when it touches the table.
    judging by weight I think it's a worn 4 Reale.
    I got my new 'Best Find' !!
    Anyone know an approximate date on this
    Thanks for looking and Happy Hunting to All
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-011.jpg   Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-009.jpg   Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-010.jpg   Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-004.jpg   Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-006.jpg  

    Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-007.jpg   Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22.jpg   Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-008.jpg   Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-003.jpg  
    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    R-6 Coins Recovered since 3-2010:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Anniversary Present

    Whoa ... a Spanish cob Good one Herbie
    Gimme a break *** I have bad days too.

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Anniversary Present

    WTG on the COb Brotha!

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Well that might be good enough for #3!

    I'm just having my first morning coffee, so maybe not quite with it... but that weight I think is a very in between weight as far as reales go. It looks pretty good but I don't understand the weight. (But i might soon - )

    2 minutes later and a couple more gulps of coffee and >>>> My best guess is it's a clipped 4 reale, and the shape does tend to indicate there is missing metal. Bigger cobs like that aren't posted much so I would call that your number 3, but don't expect it will stop anytime soon. Quite a year you're having.

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Nice find!!! congrats on the cob! that is next on my list!
    Debby

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Well that might be good enough for #3!

    I'm just having my first morning coffee, so maybe not quite with it... but that weight I think is a very in between weight as far as reales go. It looks pretty good but I don't understand the weight. (But i might soon - )

    2 minutes later and a couple more gulps of coffee and >>>> My best guess is it's a clipped 4 reale, and the shape does tend to indicate there is missing metal. Bigger cobs like that aren't posted much so I would call that your number 3, but don't expect it will stop anytime soon. Quite a year you're having.
    Thanks IP,
    I Just keep Swingin, that's how to make the finds

    Strange happenings with my scale
    I put the coin back on, 10.7.
    While i'm focusing my camera, I see it slowly count down to 10.3, I use this scale frequently, it has fresh batteries and I never saw it act like that.
    Maybe it's as unacustomed as me to have hammered silver
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob 4 Reale 1620s-nc-finds-03-22-012.jpg  
    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    R-6 Coins Recovered since 3-2010:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
    More to Come....

    www.pinetreeshillings.com

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Well that might be good enough for #3!

    I'm just having my first morning coffee, so maybe not quite with it... but that weight I think is a very in between weight as far as reales go. It looks pretty good but I don't understand the weight. (But i might soon - )

    2 minutes later and a couple more gulps of coffee and >>>> My best guess is it's a clipped 4 reale, and the shape does tend to indicate there is missing metal. Bigger cobs like that aren't posted much so I would call that your number 3, but don't expect it will stop anytime soon. Quite a year you're having.
    Strange happenings with my scale
    I put the coin back on, 10.7.
    While i'm focusing my camera, I see it slowly count down to 10.3, I use this scale frequently, it has fresh batteries and I never saw it act like that.
    Maybe it's as unacustomed as me to have hammered silver

    Still way under.



    * 8 Reales (cob) = 27.3 grams [0.96 ounces] (also known as Pieces of Eight)
    * 4 Reales (cob) = 13.65 grams [0.48 ounces]
    * 2 Reales (cob) = 6.825 grams [0.24 ounces]
    * 1 Real (cob) = 3.4125 grams [0.12 ounces]
    * 1/2 Real (cob) = 1.70625 grams [0.06 ounces]
    * 1/4 Real (cob) = 0.853125 grams [0.03 ounces]

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Killer Herbie,
    You strike again. Loving the cob man and yes it's a little lite for a four but not uncommon.And think that's what it is. Looks like phillip IV.
    Take Care,
    Pete,
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    R-6 Coins Recovered since 3-2010:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
    More to Come....

    www.pinetreeshillings.com

  11. #10
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Seen one other which is his avatar, and now that I said it, you'll remember or notice when you see a post. I'm not good remembering user names but he is a regular on here.

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Killer Herbie,
    You strike again. Loving the cob man and yes it's a little lite for a four but not uncommon.And think that's what it is. Looks like phillip IV.
    Take Care,
    Pete,
    http://www.sedwickcoins.com/treasure...shipwreck1.htm
    Yes, I think you're right on with the id Pete... It's looks just like the cross on my Philip IV.. NH gives up a mid-1600's silver You are on freakin fire man

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Seen one other which is his avatar, and now that I said it, you'll remember or notice when you see a post. I'm not good remembering user names but he is a regular on here.
    Also lot # 585 Herbie looks like your to the tee as far as I can tell even the same weight.
    Yes Ip,
    Not something I see much at all on here & I'll look for the avatar.Can't place it right off But the only others are ones like that site salvaged from ship wrecks that I see.
    Take Care,
    Pete,

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    I'm gonna pop you a Banner Vote for that one Herbie. Even though I've missed it myself a couple times with cobs Maybe the banner train will find it's way to you.
    Take Care,
    Pete,

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Seen one other which is his avatar, and now that I said it, you'll remember or notice when you see a post. I'm not good remembering user names but he is a regular on here.
    Also lot # 585 Herbie looks like your to the tee as far as I can tell even the same weight.
    Yes Ip,
    Not something I see much at all on here & I'll look for the avatar.Can't place it right off But the only others are ones like that site salvaged from ship wrecks that I see.
    Take Care,
    Pete,

    He's from NJ I believe, and it looks kinda green in the picture..... you will know him and it when you see! I'd find it, but have to get a few things done. He'll probably see this post anyway.

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by Timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Thanks For the Info & Links !!
    Notice the weight on lot #540 9.8
    Take Care & it's a great find you got there 4's don't turn up often. May be the first I've seen on here that I know of.(cob wise)
    Pete,
    Seen one other which is his avatar, and now that I said it, you'll remember or notice when you see a post. I'm not good remembering user names but he is a regular on here.
    Also lot # 585 Herbie looks like your to the tee as far as I can tell even the same weight.
    Yes Ip,
    Not something I see much at all on here & I'll look for the avatar.Can't place it right off But the only others are ones like that site salvaged from ship wrecks that I see.
    Take Care,
    Pete,

    He's from NJ I believe, and it looks kinda green in the picture..... you will know him and it when you see! I'd find it, but have to get a few things done. He'll probably see this post anyway.
    I think I know who your speaking of N.J.Ther he's in herbies other post next one down in todays finds about the silver chinese coin.

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Hello,
    Congrats on the cob. I've found two cobs. One on dry land which came out nice and silver and the other on a salt water beach which was black. I did not clean either anymore then just running them underwater. I love the way they both came out of the ground and when I speak to people about them they always ask why they are so different. I think it is the lighting that makes the avatar look greenish but I'm also color deficient so I could be wrong...lol.

    NJ

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by N.J.THer
    Hello,
    Congrats on the cob. I've found two cobs. One on dry land which came out nice and silver and the other on a salt water beach which was black. I did not clean either anymore then just running them underwater. I love the way they both came out of the ground and when I speak to people about them they always ask why they are so different. I think it is the lighting that makes the avatar look greenish but I'm also color deficient so I could be wrong...lol.

    NJ


    Unless they are 4 reales you are not the guy. Too many people from NJ finding cobs!

  20. #19
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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by N.J.THer
    Hello,
    Congrats on the cob. I've found two cobs. One on dry land which came out nice and silver and the other on a salt water beach which was black. I did not clean either anymore then just running them underwater. I love the way they both came out of the ground and when I speak to people about them they always ask why they are so different. I think it is the lighting that makes the avatar look greenish but I'm also color deficient so I could be wrong...lol.

    NJ


    Unless they are 4 reales you are no the guy. Too many people from NJ finding cobs!
    Can I add them together? No they are not 4 reales...I have to leave something to find later in life.

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    Re: Caba De Barra: Spanish Silver Cob

    Oh where or where has my spanish cob been lost at? Never found any cob, guess I need to look deeper. Nice work.
    When you feel down because you didn’t
    get what you want, just sit tight and
    be happy, because God is thinking of
    something better to give you.

 

 
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