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    Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Found this little beauty today on pasture land it was only 2 inchs deep its been ID as a Nero Fourrée Denarius DATED AD66!

    which im very shocked about as its my first silver Roman coin and its had to be fake and even more rarer

    http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/ukdfddata/sho...6&limit=recent
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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD69!! WOW!!!!

    Holy Cow! Fake??!!! BANNER!!!!
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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Very cool...congrats.

    Don't know much about this type of coinage but it sounds like it maybe banner worthy. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you..lol.

    NJ

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Now this has to be one of the most rare finds their could be . Nice going on this item and I am voting for the banner on this one.
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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Much better than average fake. Kane 23
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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Fake by who, when and why?? Sounds very intrusting but I know nothing about this.

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Hey, folks, click on the link Jimmy provided in his initial post to see the additional information where he registered this coin in UK. It HAD to be fake because that obverse side was never used with that reverse side on the official coin!

    Jimmy, are the official coins solid silver or are they silver-clad base metal like the fake?

    BANNER VOTE! This groovy coin in good shape and is an old fake version of very old coin. Andi


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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rottonr
    Fake by who, when and why?? Sounds very intrusting but I know nothing about this.
    faked by the Romans 2000 years ago it was faked by a Roman to copy a real coin at that time AD66
    Quote Originally Posted by g-olden years
    Hey, folks, click on the link Jimmy provided in his initial post to see the additional information where he registered this coin in UK. It HAD to be fake because that obverse side was never used with that reverse side on the official coin!

    Jimmy, are the official coins solid silver or are they silver-clad base metal like the fake?

    BANNER VOTE! This groovy coin in good shape and is an old fake version of very old coin. Andi

    yes the real coins are solid silver but mine is a only half silver

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    thanks every one who has voted for a banner dont know much about how banners work

    but its funny to know that even 2000 years ago people where still fakeing coins

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    I think the UKFD might be wrong on this one on the Reverse not being used before. Ric 67 Nero Denarius. Laureate and bearded head of Nero right; IMP NERO CAESAR AVGVSTVS / Salus draped, seated left on throne, holding patera, SALVS in exergue.

    The only difference is the wording used by UKFD...Enthroned Left.

    SS
    what does this mean mate its a fake from 20th century?

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy uk
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    I think the UKFD might be wrong on this one on the Reverse not being used before. Ric 67 Nero Denarius. Laureate and bearded head of Nero right; IMP NERO CAESAR AVGVSTVS / Salus draped, seated left on throne, holding patera, SALVS in exergue.

    The only difference is the wording used by UKFD...Enthroned Left.

    SS
    i did a silver test, you know tin foil and spit and it really did smelt of rotten eggs bad. so it must be silver

    what does this mean mate its a fake from 20th century?
    I just edited the post, I think it may be modern

    SS

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    Jimmy I have removed my posts to your thread because I believe I made mistakes with some of the imformation I posted

    The Obverse is different to Ric67, and is indeed Ric47 as stated by UKFD, and like they say no reference to these two different sides, being used on the same coin. But I still have doubts to it being Ancient if it is, it could be worth quite a bit of Money...I hope it is real(Ancient Fake - Copy) but there are still a few things that don't look right the very round flan for one, the legand, and the two indentations on both sides of the coin ...good luck. I would vote Banner but I'm still not convinced, would like Crusader, or IP to comment on it

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    I know nothing about these ancient coins but is it possible to be an ancient 'mint error'. Were the two sides used by the same people around the same time but just on two different coins? Just a thought.

    NJ

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    i found this http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fak...lbum=2&page=49

    its got loads of fake coins of my coin on here and mine doesnt look like any of them

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    Re: Silver FAKE Roman Denarius Dated AD66!! WOW!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher


    Jimmy I have removed my posts to your thread because I believe I made mistakes with some of the imformation I posted

    The Obverse is different to Ric67, and is indeed Ric47 as stated by UKDFD, and like they say no reference to these two different sides, being used on the same coin. But I still have doubts to it being Ancient if it is, it could be worth quite a bit of Money...I hope it is real(Ancient Fake - Copy) but there are still a few things that don't look right the very round flan for one, the legand, and the two indentations on both sides of the coin ...good luck. I would vote Banner but I'm still not convinced, would like Crusader, or IP to comment on it

    SS
    This was Dad's thoughts:
    'If it is a contemporary forgery the obverse is using the laur head right of RIC 47 and the Rev Salus of RIC 67. So the UKFD on a hybrid is correct but as SS points out correctly there was sometimes no “A” but a “Λ” used at that time on Nero coins – so would a contemporary forgery use that? Quite likely as other Nero coins around that time did use the “A” in CAESAR. In fact RIC 47 in Sears 1927 photo example has a weak A rather than the “Λ”. So it is still possibly a circa AD66 contemporary Forgery, or even a debased/plated silver that has never been known until now and possibly a modern fake but very cleverly done to get that sort of wear onto it.'

    Jimmy,
    (firstly its only a small point but it always helps to learn the terminology [I often used the fake word as well] - its not 'FAKE' unless its modern; Its a contemporary Forgery, Local imitation, Fourree, or something else??
    If I were on ebay I probably would pass based on the photo, just gut feeling. The UKDFD gives it some legitimacy, as they are right more of the time than the PAS IDs. I rate the site very highly.
    This will bring a smile to SS; Its the first one I'm unsure of without it in the hand
    I thought I could see a join around the edge? Has it a seam or the like around it?

    Its quite a good Fourree (some are blundered) but they quite often pretty skillfully made and Spelled which I think may point the finger at an 'X' coin maker or a current one making some extra money.

    I checked a couple of my 1st Century examples & they are quite a bit thinner than yours, the copper core being pretty thin & then silver plated on both sides. Yours would be a thick example & very little of the copper has bled out Interestingly one of the ones I looked at was a Salvs Reverse on a Vespasian AD69.

    I could honestly flip a coin on it being a modern fantasy/something contemporary. The interesting thing is what is the 'something', as Dad pointed out, there is a possibility its a plated/debased 'unknown or at least unpublished' semi-officially minted coin.

    If I flipped that coin now (because I have swayed all over the place), I would call it Ancient but needs much more research.
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