Confirmed New Var. Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Regiment UPDATED

[Briz06]

*****UPDATE****

Hey guys,

As promised I've Taken some high-res pics of the button. You can find them at this link.. I will now be emailing Don T. to see what he has to say..
http://imgur.com/a/vDGUA/all
Thanks for your intrest and support..


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Usually when i am out swinging and dirt fishing, its for clad. I like many of you love finding pre-1964 silver. Lately Ive been in a drought of that, and mostly come home averaging a few bucks in clad and alot of trash. While at work today I was discussing relics with one of my coworkers and told him that I don't ever throw my Garret in relic mode. He told me that I should, and he would love to see what I can come up with in my finds.. This afternoon I had absolutely no idea where I was going to go dirt fishing, I just hopped in the SUV and drove. I live in a fairly historic area, Valley Forge 3 miles away. I hopped onto Charlestown road and found myself in the hills above the Charlestown Playground.. At the bottom of the hill, Is a few old farms and an Old war cemetery. I stayed way clear of that, and stuck to the hills and flats.. Mostly what I found was old shotgun primers, lots of trash, cans etc.. However I did find some old nails, chain links, and a few old unmarked buttons.. Then I dug up this pewter P S R marked button. My online research tells me that it could be from the Pennsylvania State Regiment of Foot Which fought in the Battles of Brandywine, Germantown, Trenton, Valcour island, Brooklyn, and a few others..

This is what I've read so far..
http://twipa.blogspot.com/2011/07/happy-independence-day.html
http://www.reenactor.ru/ARH/PDF/Calver.pdf (pages 161 and 162) with Picture...

From the 2 specimens I've seen pictured, the one I found today looks in much better condition.

I was wondering if anyone out there can point to someplace to have this authenticated? I love history, But am not a historian by any stretch of the word. And would love to know if its rare or common to find such artifacts..

Thanks

 

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[curbdiggercarl57]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Will need to see the back, then the experts here can fully help you.
Front looks good, real good.
Carl

 

[Briz06]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Heres a pic of the back... Both of these were taken with my iphone and I can get my point and shoot digital..

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Lookin Fine
It is certainly not common to find US Rev Buttons.
If authentic, That's a banner button

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Lookin Fine
It is certainly not common to find US Rev Buttons.
If authentic, That's a banner button

I agree Herbie. That is a F-I-N-E looking button. Banner

 

[jewelerguy]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

very cool

 

[allan]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

That is surely a banner find ! can't be too many of them left around in that nice of shape after 200 + years , can't wait to hear from the experts

 

[scaupus]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

unfreaking believable. all that time digging up clads, and you finally hit the 'million dollar' relic. Congratulations.

 

[Mr Tuff]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

killer button.. MR TUFF

 

[umrgolf]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Wow, hope that's the real deal

 

[Briz06]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Thank you... Honestly the comments you guys have given me have humbled me greatly... ... Im really hoping it is the real deal, I have yet to break into the 19th century with a coin...

Im positing up a picture of some of the other relics I've found today, included are 2 other buttons... the 3rd and smallest of the buttons has some writing on the back of it, it is far too detioriated to make out with my eye, so I will run over to my jeweler buddies over the weekend and get a look through some much better magnification..

I really like the old chain links that I found today also.. I just don't know any Button Ninja's who know their revolutionary war buttons... I have looked all over online and have yet to find one like this other than the 2 links posted up in the beginning of this thread..

 

[pjroo33]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

I have no doubts that this is a BANNER post. GREAT find!!!!!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

The BEST items to be found are not in playgrounds. Congratulations on a stellar find. Relic hunting requires alot of detectorists... learning about and IDing relics, as well as the best ways to clean and preserve them. Welcome to a whole new world. I am nominating this for Banner. Dug with other period buttons, I think this one has a great chance of being real, and not a reenactor's button. I hope Don in SJ, Iron Patch, or someone of that caliber will also weigh in on the authenticity of the button.

P.S.--you will want to search that area very carefully. Widen out your search area and hope to dig a few more interesting 200 year old items.

Cheers,

Buckleboy

 

[pjroo33]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

I nominated this for the Banner as well. Love this find. I agree with BuckleBoy the this is highly doubtful to be a re-enactors button.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Can you get clearer pictures?

 

[Briz06]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

I will put up some better quality pictures when I get in from work... Im stuck in the office right now trying to wake up!

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Nice find, you certaintly are in the right area for finding such a button. But, with that said, comparing your button with the one pictured in Don Troiani's book "Military Buttons of the American Revolution" it does not match his variety shown. The two in the links you provided, well, it might be my old eyes but they do not seem to be an variety match either. It appears the alignment of your letters is slightly different which would leave me not to say with certainty you have a real deal or not. Also the border ring marks appear different. This could be another variety so keep your fingers cro$$ed.

I strongly suggest you email the new improved photos you said you will take later to Don Troiani for an expert's opinion.

Don

 

[Briz06]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Thank you for Chiming in Don... I am way out of my depth when it comes to these kinds of artifacts.. I will definitley have better pictures up by 5:30PM tonite and try to track down Don Troiani's Email address!

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Fantastic historical find , I feel that you have the real deal but just my humble opinion ... I hope Don and Don will give you great news . Found near Valley Forge , looks period , looks pewter , rim damage , letter formation this could be a Winner ! ... Watching this one 8) CMD

 

[pjroo33]

Re: Possible Revolutionary War Button, Pennsylvania State Foot Regiment

Here is a side by side of the found button and a reproduction button. This is the only reproduction I was able to find for comparison. The border rings are definitely different which is a good thing. I'll be very interested in hearing what Don Troiani has to say about the button.