colonial coin pocket spill

leddel

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well upon request from a few good people i decided to post a colonial copper coin spill i found two saturdays ago . this was found at a cellar site that been detected many time by others and was my second time there .

anyway after a several hours at another spot my buddy and i decided to hit one more site before calling it quits for the day . i hinted at this place as it had alot of area and we were only there one other time and it was very close by.

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it was a big center chimney colonial and we found a few buttons last time , well we split up and i was detecting basically alone for about an hour and a half. i started working an area slowly when i got a great high coin sounding target at around 6 inches i was really thinking a nice silver piece and out popped this

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i was very excited to see these , but by their dark color i just knew there was morein the hole

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three more coppers proved me right , wow now i was really floored .
unable to see what they were because of the thick corrosion but they were large coins and i just assumed they were matron head type large cents. later i found out i was wrong and learned that they were a King George III copper , a New Jersey copper and 4 fugio pennies . a real colonial coin spill and my largest multiple coppers in one hole .

heres what they looked like when they got home

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the next job was trying to i.d. the varieties and then tackling the job of cleaning them. well after almost two weeks they are nearly there .

heres a some pictures of them individually
the 1774 King George III
1774machinmillsfront1.jpg

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the 1788 New Jersey copper
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a clubed ray fugio
fugioclubrayobverse1.jpg


another fugio
newman9varietyfugiofront1.jpg


third fugio
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last fugio
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if any one can tell the varieties as i'm a little confused on two of the fugios it would be greatly appreciated.
thanks all for the nice comments on the other forums .

Dan
 

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WHOA! What an awesome find! WTG!!
 

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Great find! - Makes me want to leave work early and hunt for a while. But it is still too hot down here to hunt in the afternoon.
 

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Awesome!!
The detail on the New Jesey Shield is incredible.
4 Fugios? Wow! congratulations.

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Now,that is awesome!!!!Banner
 

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Iron Patch said:
Great find, and that ain't no reg George copper. Looks like Machin's Mills Vlack 7-74A Very Rare

Talk about fun digging those and getting to ID them!
YES! That is a Machin Mills! The triangular denticles give it away. AND WOW....what DETAIL!!!! This post belongs UP TOP!!!!!!!!!
 

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Iron Patch said:
Great find, and that ain't no reg George copper. Looks like Machin's Mills Vlack 7-74A Very Rare

Talk about fun digging those and getting to ID them!


Here's a picture of a 7-74A.

i think you got the wrong variety Patch , the "V" is a V and not the "U" type in the that one you posted
 

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hogge said:
Iron Patch said:
Great find, and that ain't no reg George copper. Looks like Machin's Mills Vlack 7-74A Very Rare

Talk about fun digging those and getting to ID them!
YES! That is a Machin Mills! The triangular denticles give it away. AND WOW....what DETAIL!!!! This post belongs UP TOP!!!!!!!!!


I deleted my post, because I wanted a few more minutes to make sure. It definitely looks like an MM but I thought I looked at all three 1774s and eliminated all three. Going to look again.
 

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Iron Patch said:
hogge said:
Iron Patch said:
Great find, and that ain't no reg George copper. Looks like Machin's Mills Vlack 7-74A Very Rare

Talk about fun digging those and getting to ID them!
YES! That is a Machin Mills! The triangular denticles give it away. AND WOW....what DETAIL!!!! This post belongs UP TOP!!!!!!!!!


I deleted my post, because I wanted a few more minutes to make sure. It definitely looks like an MM but I thought I looked at all three 1774s and eliminated all three. Going to look again.

that quite alright Patch
it looks like a possible Vlack 3-74A to me .
 

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This guy <------ is jealous. Awesome find.
 

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What an amazing discovery at a site that was already hunted before. :headbang: :notworthy: :hello2: That is what I love about this hobby. You had no idea what you were going to find that day and came home with one of your best days ever. :hello2: I agree with Iron Patch. That is a definite Machins Mills copper. Thank you for sharing this adventure, Dan.

Keep the passion high!

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Amazing find Dan! :notworthy:

I'm voting BANNER for you also! :hello2:

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leddel said:
Iron Patch said:
hogge said:
Iron Patch said:
Great find, and that ain't no reg George copper. Looks like Machin's Mills Vlack 7-74A Very Rare

Talk about fun digging those and getting to ID them!
YES! That is a Machin Mills! The triangular denticles give it away. AND WOW....what DETAIL!!!! This post belongs UP TOP!!!!!!!!!


I deleted my post, because I wanted a few more minutes to make sure. It definitely looks like an MM but I thought I looked at all three 1774s and eliminated all three. Going to look again.

that quite alright Patch
it looks like a possible Vlack 3-74A to me .


Can you find a picture of that one. I thought I looked at it and found a difference in the obverse side but might have got my wires crossed. I'm doing something in another window but will keep an eye on this one. They're all good coins but you might have a real keeper in the mix.
 

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Hi Del! I didn't know you were on this site too! Since now I do...BANNER!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: Hope we get into em like that on the fall hunt! :thumbsup:
 

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VLACK 3-74A. The 3-74 has a stop between the III and REX.......Also the stop lines up with the tip of the nose. Everything is a match. www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinIntros/NYC-Vlack.intro.html - Coin is attributed as a James Atlee Group I. At first I thought the "stop" after NIA was too close to shield for it to be his reverse, which was the only difference I saw. But I think it looks farther away on his because of the way he has it tipped, and the smallness of the coin pictured in the diagram. All 3 1774's (3-74, 7-74, and 8-74) have the same reverse.
 

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