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  1. #121

    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by allen
    that looks great on the banner and cant wait
    for you to show the pics after shes cleaned !!!!
    Thanks Allen,
    Afraid those last pix are as good as she's gettin..
    I don't want a stripped coin like that 1877 IH seen from NCS.
    Sedwick auctions resto won't touch it.
    I got some of the crust off with acid & gentle manual flaking as recommended by University of Texas Shipwreck coin Conservation team (and Diver_Down)
    Intrigued by that 'cartouche' , looks like the die was about to give out around the date. anyone seen something like that ??
    thanks to everyone for the comments and votes.
    there's more out there, I wanna see a Plain NE dug this year


    Seeing those lines scared me thinking I hope that's not casting lines! But I believe I just found some good news!

    Looks like your coin is Noe-1, and that matching die crack leaves very little doubt it's the real deal... something I was also a little concerned about from the first pics, and then the next showing the lines. But now I think this probably proves you got a good one!


    http://www.icollector.com/1652-SHILN...58-NG_i6557862
    Iron Patch, Finder of Obscure Information Extraordinaire!
    The auction description states: "A later die state, with the reverse die crack spanning the reverse horizontally through the center with several lumps"
    the dug example appears to be even more advanced, possibly one of the last struck.
    (it looks like the entire date area is about to fall out)
    Can't thank you enough for looking into this, I can offer you a great deal on a 1776 'Curency' coin
    This certainly puts the 'Authentic' stamp on the item.
    I sent Romeo1 some info on the wide circulation of the New England Silver,
    and try as they might, they couldn't keep them in local circulation.
    It's very possible there's a few in the ground around Dirtyville.
    30 years of production yields a lot of coinage.
    Again, Many thanks for finding my 'Cartouche'.
    Great Digs to You!! Herbie.

    It was actually quick to find once I started looking. As I said I still had a little doubt so wanted to try and prove it one way or the other.... and was just hoping it would be good news. I was leaning in favor with you saying the condition looked like other old silver you had dug (I just don't see em like that)... but I still wanted to make sure.

    There must be an incredible amount of great old finds within regular hunt driving distance, and I'm sure you'll keep digging them.

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  3. #122
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    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    With a little research and a lot of luck, I've pulled a few keepers
    A lot of them in quite poor condition
    But when it comes down to finding beautiful 19th C items or Toasty 17th C,
    I would choose the latter...
    I'm still a beginner, so I am hoping to recover some better finds as I
    continue the learning curve.
    I got permission to hunt a new site that seems SO promising,
    After I was told about it's history, it just came together like a puzzle that
    a lot of people would lose a lot of things there.
    Unfortunately I gotta wait a couple more weeks before starting there.
    Back to the Pine Tree, I find it also shows the 'S' shaped flan
    that results from coining in John Hulls rocker presses.
    Great stuff IP! looking forward to seeing some new Finds from
    you guys in Dirtyville. HH in 2012, Herbie.
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    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    Hmmmmmm, looks like someone isn't updating the avatar info on the side.

    <----------------------<<<<-

  5. #124
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    New Hampshire
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    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by DMN
    Hmmmmmm, looks like someone isn't updating the avatar info on the side.

    <----------------------<<<<-
    Hi DMN,
    Love my old limestone gargoyle. HH!
    Desire is oft more pleasant than acquisition
    www.pinetreeshillings.com

  6. #125
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    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by DMN
    Hmmmmmm, looks like someone isn't updating the avatar info on the side.

    <----------------------<<<<-
    Hi DMN,
    Love my old limestone gargoyle. HH!
    Actually I like the gargoyle too. Reminds me of my class picture.
    No, I meant the links for the banner finds under the avatar pic.
    Hope it cleans like the large cent. IP is right...maybe a conservator of ship wrecks finds may be the ticket!
    Be well.

  7. #126
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    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by DMN
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by DMN
    Hmmmmmm, looks like someone isn't updating the avatar info on the side.

    <----------------------<<<<-
    Hi DMN,
    Love my old limestone gargoyle. HH!
    Actually I like the gargoyle too. Reminds me of my class picture.
    No, I meant the links for the banner finds under the avatar pic.
    Hope it cleans like the large cent. IP is right...maybe a conservator of ship wrecks finds may be the ticket!
    Be well.
    Ahh, Now i get it, I think it goes up when the mods get time.
    Best wishes & HH All
    Desire is oft more pleasant than acquisition
    www.pinetreeshillings.com

  8. #127
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    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    What an awesome find!!!
    Banner!!
    Congrats!


    Joe
    Joe

  9. #128

    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch
    Quote Originally Posted by steelheadwill
    Quote Originally Posted by allen
    that looks great on the banner and cant wait
    for you to show the pics after shes cleaned !!!!
    Thanks Allen,
    Afraid those last pix are as good as she's gettin..
    I don't want a stripped coin like that 1877 IH seen from NCS.
    Sedwick auctions resto won't touch it.
    I got some of the crust off with acid & gentle manual flaking as recommended by University of Texas Shipwreck coin Conservation team (and Diver_Down)
    Intrigued by that 'cartouche' , looks like the die was about to give out around the date. anyone seen something like that ??
    thanks to everyone for the comments and votes.
    there's more out there, I wanna see a Plain NE dug this year


    Seeing those lines scared me thinking I hope that's not casting lines! But I believe I just found some good news!

    Looks like your coin is Noe-1, and that matching die crack leaves very little doubt it's the real deal... something I was also a little concerned about from the first pics, and then the next showing the lines. But now I think this probably proves you got a good one!


    http://www.icollector.com/1652-SHILN...58-NG_i6557862
    I only just had time to read all this & was going to reply that its a die crack but you went 1 further & found the example
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

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    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
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  10. #129

    Jun 2006
    Dupage,Il
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    Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

    WOW ,I would love to find something like that,I would to hunt the New Endland area,congrats on your find

  11. #130

    Dec 2012
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    I have a 1652 Mass Pine Tree Shilling with pellets graded NGC MS 64. I think it is one of a kind and cannot find another graded higher in research. Maybe someone else knows.

    Gary

  12. #131
    us
    Apr 2010
    midwest
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    1652!!!! That date blows me away. Just imagining how the person was dressed, what the surroundings looked like when that coin was dropped. Congratulations.

 

 
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