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    I'm dying a HAPPY Man

    Dropped the son off in town, and a little time to spare. Could have went back to the garage and work on the garden tractor but I had my trusty Tejon with me. So I decided to pay a visit to a park I had hit hard in the past. This time, I turned my attention to another area, just hoping for coin. In fact I turned the descrimination up to accept only coin, there was too much trash to wade through for the time that I did have. So off I go working around the entrance to the pool, parking lot, started out with dimes, looked like a dime day. I crossed the road to continue, and my day turned to a quarter day, reaped a dozen or more. It is the rare day I get that many in such short time. Nice and sunny, no one bothering me, just about perfect. Well my day was about to go from very nice to freaking AWESOME.....what should appear....a hammered spannish silver cob. Not having my glasses I did not inspect it closely. Once I got to a picnic table, and some good light I came to the realization of what I had. Sent a very poor phone picture to a buddy just get his opinion. I could not believe it.

    Check it out.....I have no idea on the age, so if you have knowledge about it please chime in.

    I continued on who knows what would be next, reaped a few more George's, but there was a cop in the parking lot and most of the people had left after a baseball game. No way was I going to give him a chance to ruin my day. I packed it up and went to get god pictures.
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  3. #2
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    Can't say anything except congrats big time on that find!

    Just curious...how far back does your town date to?
    How old is the park?
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    I'm not sure how to start this one, but will with saying are you sure it's real? You know copies are probably posted 100 times more often than a genuine 8 reale cob found on land. Literally at least 100 times.
    Last edited by Iron Patch; Apr 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM.

  5. #4
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    Not that old

    Not that far back, perhaps 1760 at the earliest , the park has been hunted hard in some parts, I must have found the right spot. Here in central PA most people associate way back history as to the civil war and the rebel occupation of the local towns, I try to go further back in time for my relic hunts. This was just a walk in the park day.....who would have thought. Park is perhaps 70 years old, maybe a 100. All I have been hoping for is a seated dime, last year several of my friends were on a seated dime kick, I found only a few mercs, was a bad year. This one is way better.

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    No, I am just learning about them, but really, even the original minters were faking them. It is silver and it has many of the markings. I will be weighing it sometime soon. Of 100 people claiming to be experts on this, I would venture that 90-95 are not up to the task. So I will have do some investigating. That will take time off of scouting for old groves.
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  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch View Post
    I'm not sure how to start this one, but will with saying are you sure it's real? You know copies are probably posted 100 times more often than a genuine 8 reale cob found on land. Literally at least 100 times.
    Sadly, there is no other nicer way of saying it.

    At least it gave you a thrill, it won't take long to get the answer
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

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  8. #7
    ua
    Nov 2011
    Ukraine
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    Good report!!! Congrat!

  9. #8
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    Aug 2008
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    Yeah well, at least it was cool to find.

    It's trying hard to be an early Potosi cob, but it just looks like one of those wax pen immitations.

  10. #9

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    Good luck with it being the real deal, keep us updated...we would all like to know.

    SS

  12. #11
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    Mar 2007
    Utah
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    Nice 4 reales! Awesome dude!
    "Ride boldly ride" the shade replied if you search for El Dorado

  13. #12
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    Dec 2006
    Maryland
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    Now that my friend is an unreale find! Oblivion mint?
    Last edited by gwdigger; Apr 21, 2012 at 01:10 PM.

  14. #13

    Jun 2007
    MA NH seacoast
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    I hope for your sake IP is wrong , but he realy knows his coins.

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    TO BOLDLY GO!

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    good find i hope its real! HH

    USS ACADIA AD42

  16. #15
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    RickIowa2009

    Mar 2009
    Cedar Rapids Iowa
    GTP1350 Garrett, Xterra 705 gold pack and ace250!
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    Cool find, Congrats

  17. #16
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    Aug 2004
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    Cast Cob Coin Copy

    Appears to have once had a "gold" colored finish as is often seen with "treasure" novelty items.

    Original Spanish Colonial coinage of the period, were hand struck with dies. The coin planchets on the original coins were also cut and trimmed by hand to the proper weight, hence the irregular "cob" shape. Cast copies will almost always show a seam around the perimeter, where the two halves of the mold would meet. A "bubbly" more rounded look to design features is also indicative to casting processes. Details on an original struck coin, will display a combination of sharper edges, and flattening on the top and recesses, from the strike.

    Cast "souvenir" Spanish coins have been popular items for the past 40 or so years, and quite a few have been lost as well.

    CC Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    Sadly, there is no other nicer way of saying it.

    At least it gave you a thrill, it won't take long to get the answer
    Well, silver in the soil that long does tend to have a distinct color.
    But, there were traces of the Spanish in the Wyoming Valley/Upper Susquehanna as the colonists arrived, as well as the Dutch in the Schuylkill River sections.
    Hope it works out for you. Take it to a coin shop/show and let them have a looksie.
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    Hello,

    You had an appraisal (so to speak) from two of the most renowned treasure hunters on this site.... An accomplishment in itself !! I can assure you they are accurate with their insight on the subject... Fakes of these types of coins are common, the patina in the picture looks a lot like the fakes do but... You need to check for area's of plating, (Chipping, cracking, Corrosion) If plated its not genuine.... Have tested for silver content or take it to a well known coin dealer for a further look.... Cool conversation piece genuine or not, best of luck !!

    Keep @ it and HH !!
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  20. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by CC Hunter View Post
    Cast Cob Coin Copy

    Appears to have once had a "gold" colored finish as is often seen with "treasure" novelty items.

    Original Spanish Colonial coinage of the period, were hand struck with dies. The coin planchets on the original coins were also cut and trimmed by hand to the proper weight, hence the irregular "cob" shape. Cast copies will almost always show a seam around the perimeter, where the two halves of the mold would meet. A "bubbly" more rounded look to design features is also indicative to casting processes. Details on an original struck coin, will display a combination of sharper edges, and flattening on the top and recesses, from the strike.

    Cast "souvenir" Spanish coins have been popular items for the past 40 or so years, and quite a few have been lost as well.

    CC Hunter
    To CoilFisher,
    Read the above, it's not so much the distinct colour that bothers me on this one. It's the whole shopping list above as pointed out by CC & more bysides.
    The most telling point in some ways has been mentioned. When they hand struck these coins & then 'trimmed' them to weight, it would leave very obvious looking 'cut' edges. Where it didn't get trimmed it often shows cracking to the edges which happen on many thicker hammered coins. See my purchased example below & compare to the edges of the posters.
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    Last edited by CRUSADER; Apr 22, 2012 at 04:05 AM.
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
    How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.

  21. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    To CoilFisher,
    Read the above, it's not so much the distinct colour that bothers me on this one. It's the whole shopping list above as pointed out by CC & more bysides.
    The most telling point in some ways has been mentioned. When they hand struck these coins & then 'trimmed' them to weight, it would leave very obvious looking 'cut' edges. Where it didn't get trimmed it often shows cracking to the edges which happen on many thicker hammered coins. See my purchased example below & compare to the edges of the posters.
    =================

    Even easier to see now. Not my area of expertise at all I am afraid. I never dug anything remotely that old except rust.
    Though I have seen several at coin and stamp shows and jewelry shops over the years. ( Now that you all mention it I have seen the repro's in toy shops and the like where the pirate chests are).
    It is why I wondered how old the town was, as well.
    --Great place to get alot of info. that is for sure. It has helped my knowledge of the hobby far excel from what it used to be. Thanks for the info!
    CoilFisher=I fish with a coil.

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    Use a Lesche and a pinpointer and CUT the plug!
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