A PRETTY INTERESTING "A" THINGY MA JIG * CIVIL WAR COMPANY LETTER? ARTILLERY?

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

got an invite from Scott (401k) to come down and do a group hunt with Drew(charlives) and Terry RI and a few other guys.we had to meet them at 11 am so me and Rebel (roger) headed out at 7 am to a cellar hole.not many targets at the hole.think Dan & George may have been here previously but i managed to get this letter"A" rivet type thing (IH penny is for size reference)
It definitely went on a leather strap with the rivet on back but my question is....is this a civil war company letter perhaps that went on something?
at the farm field i got a few flat buttons,one scott backmarked designed one piece and a few other trinkets.thanks for the invite Scott! was nice to finally meet them and a great day out to detect.REALLY interested as to what this "A" rivet type thing is.any help would be so much appreciated!
got one response from a forum member quoting this below..............

Just saw your piece and wanted to let you know I dug the exact same item .Well I say exact not quite as mine had the number 4 in it instead of a letter. I dug my piece in an area of confederate activity. I dug a script I and a Gardner bullet with my piece.It was yrs ago and my piece was damaged.I got to messing with it and broke it even more.I had not seen another like it until I saw yours. I assumed it was something post war so it got tossed into some junk box and for the life of me don't have a clue as to what ever happened to it.I swear it was made identical to yours but with a number instead of the letter.even the background in the disc was the same.I'll look around , doubt I'll find it but I'm goin to look now. Mine was dug in a confederate camping area in the low country of SC. It's definitely got me curious as to what it is now.Nice finds congrats!

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[Papa Bear]

Wow! Very interesting! Well done!!

[jewelerguy]

no doubt somebody here will come up with an accurate ID. it's really cool though, whatever it is

[The Pulltab Collector]

Interesting! Could it be a stamp? Or a seal?

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Interesting! Could it be a stamp? Or a seal?

nah I don't think so.not with this type of horse tack rivet.it was affixed to a peice of leather or fabric

[Giant056]

Great bunch of finds for sure

[DCMatt]

Nice stuff. I love the "golden age" Ives Scott & Co. button. 1830s - 40s.

DCMatt

[VOL1266-X]

That's a group of nice finds Dave!!! I have never seen the "A' device before. If it was smaller, it is constructed like a cuff link. The back is not constructed like a small rosette. The stippled field behind the "A" is interesting too. I'll look through my relic books. HH. Quindy.

[oldsalty19]

great hunt men. HH

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

That's a group of nice finds Dave!!! I have never seen the "A' device before. If it was smaller, it is constructed like a cuff link. The back is not constructed like a small rosette. The stippled field behind the "A" is interesting too. I'll look through my relic books. HH. Quindy.

thanks Quindy! hope ya find something on this

[VOL1266-X]

Dave, I did not find the "A" relic in my CW relic books so I sent the pics to a friend who is a relic expert. He says it could be a device from an Indian Wars bayonet scabbard. He said the post CW Springfield rifle bayonet scabbards had a device with a US on them just like that. Nice find, Quindy.

[Dig Daddy]

Interesting and cool find, look forward to a possitive I.D.

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Dave, I did not find the "A" relic in my CW relic books so I sent the pics to a friend who is a relic expert. He says it could be a device from an Indian Wars bayonet scabbard. He said the post CW Springfield rifle bayonet scabbards had a device with a US on them just like that. Nice find, Quindy.

thanks Quindy! so chances are it's a company letter? or Artllery?

[Ammonhotep]

My first thought was also cufflink, but could be insignia of some sort?

The textured back may have been a bonding surface for a rotted contrast material.

Example: typewriter cufflink of the 1940s. Just imagine a more antiquated backing.

[Ammonhotep]

Actually, come to think of it, I'm going to call it a "collar disk." Earlier than "Type I" on this site: Dating Metallic Insignia: Collar Disks

This looks pretty close:



Furthermore, I'm going to say that "A" stands for assassin.

[VOL1266-X]

thanks Quindy! so chances are it's a company letter? or Artllery?

Dave, let me check with our Oklahoma hunting friend who knows Indian Territory relics. HH, Quindy.

[CRUSADER]

Actually, come to think of it, I'm going to call it a "collar disk." Earlier than "Type I" on this site: Dating Metallic Insignia: Collar Disks

This looks pretty close:



Furthermore, I'm going to say that "A" stands for assassin.

collar disk was my first thought

[grasshopper]

I don't think it's a collar disc. Unless it's an earlier version of the one's we are used to seeing around here (from WWI). Collar discs screw into a back piece, this looks like the back part just slipped through the leather. I personally think it looks like a rivet off a knapsack or sword belt, but i don't think they were usually marked.

[jamesbibb]

Here is one very simailar Dave. This one is exactly like yours on the attatchment-only mine is glass or ceramic front with an "N"

I have always wondered WTF these are! LOL

[DAVIDMCGAUGHEY2008]

Looks Like Your "A" Button Is From A Confederate Artillery Coat

Here Are Some Sites To Compare:

Sgt Riker's Civil War Trading Post - Confederate State Buttons

Old Rebellion War Relics

Your Other Button Is IVES SCOTT & CO. From The 1830's Most Times Considered A Golden Age Button