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May 22, 2012, 06:42 AM
#41
Lets also put it in context with what was found around it, civil war bullets, bayonets and an exploded artillery shell. With those items found and within the context I would say the evidence points more than strong to how it was used.
Or one heck of a way to finally get that evasive 12 point buck they were stalking ...
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May 22, 2012 06:42 AM
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May 22, 2012, 07:29 AM
#42
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May 22, 2012, 02:34 PM
#43
 It's dangerous to be right when those with a thimbleful of perceived authority are wrong.
 Originally Posted by HomeGuardDan
@Diggit - that is a good and fair question. I would answer it as the same as any common three ringer recovered, there is never a 100% guarantee that it was used by a civil war soldier, but in most cases it is 99.9999999% positive based on context and where it is recovered. Enfields were primarily imported for use in the war and was the weapon of choice by the Confederates. Lets also put it in context with what was found around it, civil war bullets, bayonets and an exploded artillery shell. With those items found and within the context I would say the evidence points more than strong to how it was used. Even archaeologists can't 100% guarantee the item was used as reported, but we both use our years of experience and knowledge of the items, context, and history of the location to make the justification.
Thanks
Dan
Excellent answer Dan, I see you really do your research.
My question wasn't meant to be snide or condescending, merely playing the devil's advocate.
Awesome find, and congrats on the banner!
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May 22, 2012, 02:45 PM
#44
 It's there,you just gotta look for it!
 Originally Posted by gtoast99
Well, you do raise a good point, as there are some detectorists out there who will dig up a flat button in a random field and run around telling about their obviously "Confederate" find. But Dan and Beau aren't among them. It can be tempting sometimes to make your finds seem to be more than they really are (a subject I've discussed in my blog previously). Dan and Beau make enough quality finds that there really isn't any need for them to. More importantly, they're just not that type. They are two of the most humble detectorists I've had the pleasure of meeting (in a hobby that naturally attracts attention seekers).
The bayonette and artillery frag finds certainly help to ID the finds to the war period. Don't know how many civilians were going around shooting off artillery!
But more importantly, I know Dan, and I know Dan's research is top notch. They weren't just in any old creek hoping to see what they could find. While I'm sure they're not going to tell you where the site is (at least until they've hunted it long enough!), you can rest assured that they went to the site as a direct result of thorough and highly detailed research of documented war activity.
To Dan and Beau, HUGE congrats on the amazing finds. In my book, it doesn't get much better than that!!
Nuf said boys!
God Bless Chris
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May 22, 2012, 02:55 PM
#45
 Originally Posted by Diggit
Excellent answer Dan, I see you really do your research.
My question wasn't meant to be snide or condescending, merely playing the devil's advocate.
Awesome find, and congrats on the banner!
I completely understood Dig...I sent you a PM as well to make sure you knew I was not taking it offensive.
Thanks
Dan
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May 22, 2012, 03:44 PM
#46
Cant wait to see these cleaned up. Amazing find.
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May 22, 2012, 04:58 PM
#47
Congrats on the banner. Great finds!
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May 22, 2012, 08:30 PM
#48
This is truly unreal guys! Was this site perhaps a battle or skirmish...perhaps this is reason for them being there?? How far apart were the rifles? Good guys, can't wait to see what else you may find next there.
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May 22, 2012, 08:54 PM
#49
 Brian
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May 23, 2012, 11:01 AM
#50
 Originally Posted by Michigander Dan
This is truly unreal guys! Was this site perhaps a battle or skirmish...perhaps this is reason for them being there?? How far apart were the rifles? Good guys, can't wait to see what else you may find next there. 
Dan, the site saw activity from camps and troop movements. The general area also saw some battles.
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May 23, 2012, 11:07 AM
#51
Those are some amazing finds, Congradulations to the both of you.
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
Joseph Stalin
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May 23, 2012, 04:23 PM
#52
Those are great finds. Congrats on making the banner. Will you be posting them on this thread, or will you be making another thread when the preservation process is complete? I don't want to miss it.
"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it." - Henry Ford
"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." -George Orwell
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May 23, 2012, 06:43 PM
#53
 Originally Posted by diggummup
Those are great finds. Congrats on making the banner. Will you be posting them on this thread, or will you be making another thread when the preservation process is complete? I don't want to miss it. 
Dig - thanks man, I will probably either post it on here, or Beau on his thread.
Dan
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May 23, 2012, 08:38 PM
#54
awesome just awesome.makes you wonder if they are from someone who had enough with fighting and chucked them in the water or it was the end of the war or if they were from a fallen men, the story they could tell.
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May 24, 2012, 07:31 PM
#55
Congratulations on GREAT & BANNER finds! Way to go! Breezie
Every time I watch Gone With The Wind, I think we're gonna win this time!
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May 25, 2012, 12:03 AM
#56
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May 26, 2012, 03:09 PM
#57
wow that is just so amazing and im glad its on the banner!
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May 26, 2012, 03:37 PM
#58
wow guys thought i misread then i checked the pictures probably two of the best finds ever here on tnet congratulations the only problem is how do you top that ??
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May 27, 2012, 12:43 AM
#59
Awesome find! Get with Ric Savage, he can probably get $2000 a piece for those! haha!
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May 27, 2012, 04:23 AM
#60
One third jewelry of the World are under sand so farFinds2013
Coins usables=2254
Silver= 235
Gold=12,6g
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