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    Pewter George II, Pewter button, 1838 Halfdime

    Got some oldies,
    my 2nd cft pewter GII HP,
    I've dug a lot of 17th c buttons, heres my first of this type,
    I see drilled and applied shanks on UKFD no integrals.
    solid cast acorn button with integral shank, (way off center)
    thin halfdime, 2nd year of issue,
    nice brass foliated button & shoe buckle frame,
    44 washington was a bonus
    Thanks for looking & HH all!!!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-10-034.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-20-018.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-20-010.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-20-023.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-20-021.jpg  

    Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-10-033.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-20-031.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-20-040-copy.jpg  
    Last edited by steelheadwill; May 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM.
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    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    Rare Coins Recovered since 2-2012:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
    More to Come....

    www.pinetreeshillings.com

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  3. #2
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    Nice button, my Mom would love to add it to her collection.

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    The button is one heck of a nice find, I think it is closer to the late 1500s up to mid 1600s era and I would be counting that as a "nipple" doublet button, not acorn, either way a great find.

    The KGII HP is in great condition for being a pewter based, I assume this was another find from the water area, otherwise I would think if a land find and pewter it would be crumbling away like my KGII Pewter was when found.

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ View Post
    The button is one heck of a nice find, I think it is closer to the late 1500s up to mid 1600s era and I would be counting that as a "nipple" doublet button, not acorn, either way a great find.

    The KGII HP is in great condition for being a pewter based, I assume this was another find from the water area, otherwise I would think if a land find and pewter it would be crumbling away like my KGII Pewter was when found.

    Don
    Thanks All
    Appreciate the info Don,
    of the relics I find, lead and pewter buttons seem to be the oldest.
    these metals are often better preserved in water than land, contrary to
    copper and silver. the old pewter gets a very hard black exterior,
    that blistering is a drawback though..
    am seeing 1737 on the reverse along with exuerge and shield.
    here's the other one I got earlier, crude casting with sprue.
    wonder if these were defective throwaways by the maker or discards

    from whoever they were passed to

    best wishes and HH
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nc-cast-brass-fork-012-copy.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nh-finds-05-20-041-copy.jpg  
    Last edited by steelheadwill; May 22, 2012 at 10:19 AM.
    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    Rare Coins Recovered since 2-2012:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
    More to Come....

    www.pinetreeshillings.com

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    Good seeing you posting again Herbie! Was wondering if everything was ok. Awesome finds (as usual)! You really know how to pull the old stuff. Beauty of a half dime. Reverse looks slightly rotated but that was relatively common back then. Keep em comin!

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    You make me sick. Thats a compliment by the way. lol

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    Those are some great finds. I love the 1700's "I was born in the 1700's"

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    super cool finds!

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    Nice finds Herbie. HH, Quindy.
    Go to my profile page to see more recoveries and Happy Hunting!!!

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    Thanks Everyone
    Rob, things have been busy..

    Gw, the feeling is mutual

    Quindy, it's good to hear from you!

    Submarine and Jewelerguy, Best digs to you all!
    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    Rare Coins Recovered since 2-2012:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
    More to Come....

    www.pinetreeshillings.com

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    Great stuff Herbie. You have been on one of the oldest sites I have seen posted on the East, Mr. I hope to stumble onto something that old, I better brake out the history books... Very nice button and KG. Arty
    Its a small world until you have to walk somewhere.

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    nice george it wouldnt be made of pewter i think its just the soil that has made it that way

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    Take good care of that button. Wow really nice.

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    Thanks Jimmy and Ticm,
    Jimmy, the readings for these coins are consistent with pewter not copper,
    as is the surface appearance. coppers found here dont turn black and blistery.
    as I stated in my op, this site has produced several period copies 18th and early 19th C,
    other evidence this may have been a site where they were produced are impressions of coins on sheet lead found.
    here's a lead copy of an 1801 US Cent, it is almost double the weight of a genuine.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nc-finds-10-5-005.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-nc-finds-10-5-004.jpg  
    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    Rare Coins Recovered since 2-2012:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
    More to Come....

    www.pinetreeshillings.com

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    Nice finds congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by artyfacts View Post
    Great stuff Herbie. You have been on one of the oldest sites I have seen posted on the East, Mr. I hope to stumble onto something that old, I better brake out the history books... Very nice button and KG. Arty
    Hi Arty Always good to hear from you !!
    Cob Cove is a blessing, and the reason I got hooked on recovering history thru MDing.
    I recall you pulling some oldies yourself, you are too modest
    Best Digs and HH to you! Herbie.
    2013 Finds:
    Iron, Lead, Aluminum, Pewter, Copper, Silver, Gold.
    Rare Coins Recovered since 2-2012:
    1640-54 Portugal Johannes IV 400 Reis, Undated and non revaluation example.
    1652 Oak Shilling, Noe-3.
    1652 Oak Three Pence, Noe-28.
    1722 'Vtile Dvlci' Rosa Half Penny, Breen 132. He called it "Woods first prototype HP".
    1796 US Half Cent, No Pole.
    More to Come....

    www.pinetreeshillings.com

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    That button certainly appears to be from the Tudor period herbie . I told Crusader a while back that a Tudor period find was one of my big M-Ding goals here in Maine . He replied that coins from that period do show up from time to time here on this side of the pond but rarely a button or clothes fastener. A find to be proud of for sure ! Congrats ! I was hoping the Europeans would chime in on it . Have you looked on the UK finds index for a match ? M.R.
    MaineRelic.

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    Cool Finds,Herbie I'll give all I know on the button,I found one simular myself on a site that has given up tudor dated finds,from buckles to other type buttons,& quite a few early 17th century finds as well.Here's the one I found.....pics. below.
    Here's some sites......& a post I made on these with some of the older type round solid ones as well.........
    This site you will have to read the description of the button to know............
    silversimon

    This site also has some..........
    New Page 2

    The post I made useing the time line I could find on the UKDB site..............but the shank is different.
    Who else Finds Pewter Buttons?

    Take Care,
    Pete,
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-016.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-017.jpg  

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    Here's another that's close to falling under that type shape it's more doomed then the other larger group of the convex buttons I've found so it's a little different it self...........
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-019.jpg   Pewter George II and Pewter Acorn button 1838 Halfdime-018.jpg  

 

 
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