May 23, 2012, 12:45 AM
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
DAZZLING 1839-O SEATED, Possible SPANISH COLONIAL Cap Badge, and Henry Clay Button!
Let me start by giving you the soundtrack for this post. Feel free to enjoy some good old cajun fiddle while you read along.
What you see below is the result of two hunts. I held off on posting the first one (a couple days), hoping for a positive ID from the relic experts but that ID has not come yet. So, here's the story...
I got together with Shanegalang for another great hunt, and we decided to see how the Field of Dreams was doing. When we arrived, the farmers had re-trenched the field, opening up the bottoms of the cane rows and tossing the dirt back up on the sides. The cane was overhanging the rows (the leaves will cut your skin to shreds), but I had long sleeves on in spite of the 93 degree heat and choking humidity, and the cane wasn't super thick yet, so I jumped right in.
I was hoping that the trenching would make a difference, and it did. I dug a flat button right off, and eyeballed some pipe stem pieces. Shane's 11-year-old son found an absolutely incredible find in the cane field with his eyes--but he will have to post that one. I can't steal his thunder, other than to say that it is a find I have never made, and probably never will.
Anyhow, I was congratulating him on the incredible find, and thinking about the fact that whenever that little man is around I can't seem to find anything. Then I dug a deep signal and about a foot down came the top from an ale jug from our tavern! I hunted a while longer and got a nice big brass signal, and recovered a strange looking piece. The more I investigated it, the more I became excited. I have a hunch it is a hat plate from the late 1700s to early 1800s. Could be militia, but also could be Spanish, as one relic expert e-mailed me over the weekend!
Then we located another site on a property we had permission for for months, but had not even explored yet. (Part of the 40,000 acres we have permission for.) We managed to find a site in that massive field too, and it is a mixed site, spanning about 200 years of history. It's a little tough to untangle. We have eyeballed scalloped feather-edge china (late 1700s) and clay pipe stems like the ones we find at our tavern site. But we have also found 1940s marbles and I dug a wheat cent. Anyhow, I think we will find something there.
Here is a photo of all my finds from the field of dreams:
And the closest match I could find for the lid (Georgian Era lid from an ale jug):
And a close-up shot of the cap badge:
If anyone can provide a positive ID, please help me out.
And here are the finds from the second site of the day:
Wish we'd had a bit more time on that site...but there's always next time.
Then I got together with Shane again today for another hunt. We had a new strategy, but when we got there, the farmer had disced up the turn rows for us. So we decided to grid those out again. The first signal I dug was a piece of can slaw. The second signal was in a clod, so I broke it in half, and when I broke it in half again, a tiny silver reeded edge was staring me right in the face!
Well, I thought about saving the moment of discovery for when I got home, because I knew what it was going to be: a late 1830s or early 1840s Seated Half dime with an Orleans mintmark. I knew U.S. because of the reeds instead of the dot/dash pattern of the Spanish silvers, and I knew it wouldn't be a Capped, because these folks didn't get Philly minted coins down here in circulation until after our site was abandoned in the 1840s. Well, I broke open the clod, and a BEAUTIFUL 1839-O half dime glistened in the sunshine!
Gotta love that sticky, silty Louisiana MUD! I gently raised the coin out of its earthen tomb and took this photo:
Well, I kept hunting, racking up a small handfull of musketballs and a surprise 3-ringer. Went down a nice cane row that gave up a bent flat button and a tiny padlock and dug a very large two-piece button. I didn't want to scrub on it much, but curiosity got the best of me, and I rubbed some dirt off, revealing what looked like a bust on it. I thought it might be a commemorative button of some sort, or perhaps Jacksonian era and stuck it in my pouch.
When I got home, I got out the aluminum jelly and started to investigate the strange button. I was shocked to see that a Kentucky-related find had followed me here. It was a HENRY CLAY campaign button from the 1820s or 30s! Friends, I could not recall ever seeing one of these on Tnet since I joined the forum years ago, so I searched and this is indeed the first one ever posted here. Henry Clay tokens have been found and posted before, but no campaign buttons. This button has a rarity value of 75 in Albert's book, which makes it as rare as digging a Texas button. And a lot of gilding surviving. I am on cloud nine about this button find!
Here is a photo of my finds from the hunt:
And here are the photos of that Sweet, Sweet Seated. It's great to finally get one that wasn't roughed-up much by the plough.
The CaneField Bandits
P.S.--if you need something to get you motivated, take a look at our Spring Wrap-Up here: Dont look at this post if you have high blood pressure!
Last edited by BuckleBoy; May 23, 2012 at 02:16 AM.
May 23, 2012, 04:15 AM
Cane ain't the only Sweet thing in those fields
Awesome recoveries, Big congrats on your finds!!
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May 23, 2012, 07:06 AM
Nice haul of field finds , sounds like the heats on down there sweet half dime and I can't get over all the pipe stems .. Well Done Bandit
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May 23, 2012, 07:29 AM
BB, those are outstanding finds for this time of year OR any time of year. That 1839 HD does look AU or at least XF-40. You and Shane had 2 great hunts. That Henry Clay button is in good shape and I feel it is definitely BANNER quality due to rarity and I will nominate it as such. The brass hat insignia (or so we think) may be Spanish as mentioned by one of the Curators of the Tennessee State Museum. HH, Quindy.
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May 23, 2012, 03:43 PM
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Thanks a bunch for your reply, my friend. You said that perfectly.
Originally Posted by steelheadwill
Originally Posted by CMDiamonddawg
Yes, the heat is on but the finds are worth it. Several pipe stems at that spot, eh? Hope you got a chance to check out the Best Finds post I made.
Thank you so much for the banner bump. It's been a good while since I've had anything up top on the forum. Perhaps overdue. Still waiting and hoping for an ID on the hat insignia. But yes, that Henry Clay button is a great find. It's nice to dig things the likes of which have never been posted on the forum before. Hopefully there will be a few more banner nominations. And I think there will likely be for Anthony once he posts his eyeball find from the hunt!
Originally Posted by VOL1266-X
May 23, 2012, 04:55 PM
I have. Been loving the cane field finds Buckleboy ! The Henry Clay button needs to go to the top ! I am voting for it Rarity and quality makes banner in my book I will also be looking to see what the experts finally figure out on the cap badge piece and though I am partial to Relics that is a beauty of a seated half dime you found as well ! Great post ! M.R.
May 23, 2012, 04:58 PM
After a full day of taking care of my son, Quinn, I thought it would be a great idea to visit Tnet. This is the post that caught my eye. Amazing relics, Buck! This cup of coffee that I am drinking now is going down even more smooth while viewing this killer thread. A cup of Dunkin' Decaf with a little bit of cream and sugar. Alright! The pottery you eyeball always amazes me. Wow, what a unique and rare button that is! Banner Bump!
Keep the passion high!
May 23, 2012, 05:50 PM
La sure has been kind to you!! That is a lovely Half Dime and the Campaign button for 1844 of Henry Clay is a top notch find! Big Congratulations.
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
May 23, 2012, 06:00 PM
May 23, 2012, 06:10 PM
man that half dime and Henry Clay button are just beautiful. congrats!
May 23, 2012, 06:52 PM
Banner day in my book! Great hunt!
May 23, 2012, 08:26 PM
CANE FIELD BANDITS and IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
Good to hear from you, Don. Please drop me a line and let me know if you know of anyone who might be able to identify the cap badge piece. I'd surely appreciate it.
Originally Posted by Don in SJ
May 23, 2012, 09:00 PM
I been researching this piece of coat of arms found by you and reached the following conclusions:
It is the personal shield of a Spanish family lineage or a small town 18th century , I can not identify that is incomplete.
Shield in the Home of the family Rins in Gistaín
It could also be the shield of a city in northern Spain like this in Burbáguena .
Is not National shield of Spain that has the castle tower on the right side .
Portugal also has towers of castles, but they are of a different style. This shield is not Portuguese.
Is not Puerto Rico Shield , the tower is diferent
I vote banner ..congrats !
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May 24, 2012, 06:19 AM
Got your call Buck on your post, and I'm loving that button. Congrats to you my friend. The half dime is sweet as well.
You guys are having one heck of a time in that field now that the cane is getting up there. I haven't been on the forums in forever and can't seem to get used to this new site. Good luck to you on any future hunts, and i'm voting banner on this one.
May 24, 2012, 08:46 AM
Very nice seated. That is an extrordinary rare button. Looking forward to seeing it up top. Arty
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