Buster Gun

[Baba awarded]

Barrel

will post some pics. Any info would be great.

 

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[NOLA_Ken]

I can't give you a positive ID on it, what I can say is that it looks like it's been put together from parts, or possibly repaired by someone who really didn't know what they were doing. You can plainly see where the original in-letting for the lock has been filled, and the lock plate looks like a piece of sheet metal (is it NAILED on?) The lock looks like it may be Spanish to me, but I can't be certain. Also I can't really see the side plate on the other side, a clear pic of that might help.

Having said that, an engraved barrel like that is pretty odd, and could be an indication that it was a very high end musket in it's time, possibly a presentation gun. You'd need to get it looked at by an expert though to confirm that.

Can you post clear pics of the left side plate, a straight on close up of the lock, the barrel engraving, and any proof marks no matter how small they are? I'll help you as best I can to ID it, but I simply cant from the pics so far.

 

[timekiller]

I agree with every word Nola Ken has told you.To me the gun looks pieced together from all sorts of guns.The pics. aren't good enough for no one to call it in my opinion.Also looks like quite a few pieces missing.The fireing mechanism screams spanish as seen here............................
http://asoac.org/bulletins/91_benninghoff_spanish.pdf
other parts look french like the stock.But with out better pics.It be tough to know.And still may not if put together from all sorts.
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[CRUSADER]

Possibly made up more as a 'wall hanger' than authentic 'original' piece. Although the 'pieces' look original.

 

[timekiller]

Yea I don't know man,might be some kind of Ottman Empire deal. I'll give it to him. He comes with some good ones (what's it's).

 

[oldsalty19]

 

[DCMatt]

Here is a similar lock. Listed as 19th C Russian.




Listed here: TSARS ARSENAL - Russian Imperial swords, sabres, dirks, daggers, uniforms, orders, medals, badges

DCMatt

 

[DCMatt]

Not being a gun guy I am out of my league on this thread but I found this which my shed some light on the piece:

late 16th century on, more and more muskets with the more mechanically advanced flintlock firing system were manufactured in the Ottoman Empire. These often employed the Spanish miquelet-lock (a type of flintlock).

I wonder if someone used Ottoman miquelet parts on a new stock after the old wood went bad.

DCMatt

 

[AlabamaRelic]

will post some pics. Any info would be great.

I want details. Where was this found? In a treasure chest?

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Matt.... That's a pretty good match on the lock! Being a pistol lock would explain why the lock plate is so small. I kind of think the barrel might be original to the stock just from looking at the offset barrel tang, and it's possible that the trigger and guard also are original. I still don't know the origin of those parts, so hopefully there's a proof mark somewhere on the barrel, side plate, or possibly even stamped into the wood itself.

As a guess, someone at sometime broke the lock on their gun, and got hold of a different lock to replace it with. Or they got hold of a couple broken guns and cobbled one together.

 

[Baba awarded]

Was given to me by a family member. Don't know much about it.

 

[N.J.THer]

Here is a similar lock. Listed as 19th C Russian.

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Listed here: TSARS ARSENAL - Russian Imperial swords, sabres, dirks, daggers, uniforms, orders, medals, badges

DCMatt

Completely off topic - This gun looks like the AOL guy is sitting on top of it.

Can't help with any IDing on this one. Good luck

 

[NOLA_Ken]

Was given to me by a family member. Don't know much about it.

Well just hang it on the wall and enjoy it, do not under any circumstances attempt to load or fire it! It's an interesting piece and one I'd be happy to have on my wall!

 

[stefen]

A little trivia....

A TV Reality show...Pawnbrokers...took an old gun to an appraiser and found it was still loaded from CW days...

Could be scary...

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I remember that one, didn't they use an air compressor to clear it and find out it was only paper? You can soak black powder with oil and render it safe in a loaded antique like that, and use air to clear it out.

 

[leprechaun]

Nice old gun.