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    Been watching this thread and periodically searching for the best answer-way cool find and cool id RodgerDoger.

    I'm close by Mt. Holly too-nice area to have permission to hunt. There are a few places near there I have on my list to check out.
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    That is a fantastic find. Makes me a bit jealous, honestly. But it will look great in a display case. Would be even better to make a display with an original watch paper stamped with it, if it could be found. Of course, you could research the method and type of paper used, and ink it yourself and make a watch paper for the display.

    Congratulations!


    -Buckles
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    Thanks guys. Tomorrow I'm going to reach out to the National Watch & Clock Museum. Yes, there is one! And it's in PA, where John Mecke is from. I'm hoping they can give me some more info, and maybe they'll want to display it, if it is indeed worthy. Luckily I wasn't dumb enough to take my cleaning further than gentle soap and water, though I was tempted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by granthansen
    tcim, we were on private property. I'm not ballsy enough to show up places unannounced


    Yeah like I said that was years ago times are different now.

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    About a foot down I pulled out this heavy piece of metal. Saw the flat side first and thought, damn. Then flipped it to see a design. After closer inspection it revealed writing, in reverse type! So it's a stamp or embosser of some time for a clock and watch maker named John Mecke. Last night's research found him in a Philadelphia directory from 1839 under silversmiths
    Mr. granthanson you went deep and pulled something historical BANNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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    Wow, thanks nov2101. Really appreciate it.

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    BTW, speaking of going deep on this... I got my nice high tone and pin pointed. I dug up a rusty nail, which all day for some reason were ringing mid-tone. I thought, Oh well, and then started to fill the hole. Then I remembered, idiot, double check! Ding! High tone. So I dug more, with pro pointer, and dug up another rusty nail. Ug. Completely filled the hole and then remembered, check again!! So I did. Ding! OK, I thought, I'm not letting this go. I'm seven and a half hours in, it's 90-something degrees, and humid. But the day is coming to end end. Go for it... emptied the rather large hole again and pin pointed into the side wall... pushed my shovel into the side wall and plopped this out. I first only saw the flat side, so I was bummed, thinking more scrap metal. Then I flipped it... what the heck is this And you know the rest Oh, and yes, I did rescan. No more dings!

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    congrats! very cool find!
    Debby

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    that's cool. looks kinda like a print block to me, but not sure.

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    Another good article on watch papers: Watch Papers Offer More Than Protection I'll keep you all posted when I talk to the museum tomorrow. Thanks!!

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    Photos are on their way to the National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors museum. Wish me luck!

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    Just to keep everyone in the loop... I've reached out to the National Association of Watch & Clock Makers museum and various other antique watch/clock authorities. Waiting to hear back from one or all of them. Some are in London, so I figure it may be off hours there and I may hear back this evening. I even tried joining an antique pocket watch forum to post but was denied access. WTF!?

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    Finding more info, but still waiting to hear back from one of the many experts I've contacted.

    Most of the actual watch papers I've found are in museum collections, and are pretty beat up. I've only found one that's on auction, for $5,000 - $7,000, but the artist is Paul Revere, so... but again, these are just the PAPERS! Not the actual plate. Still have my fingers crossed that this has historical significance.

    This site has probably the largest collection of papers I've found, and have been in touch and waiting to hear back from their expert. I'm going to go through the images when I have time to see if I can find similar design, and perhaps pinpoint an artist:

    public

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    I hope you all don't mind my updates, but I'm excited... Just got a reply from the American Antiquarian Society... they have a watch paper and engravings expert who will get back to me next week since she's currently putting together an exhibit. Sweet!

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    No problem! It's ok to be excited-Lord knows I haven't found anything great lately (my trip to the thrifts was very unthrilling yesterday), so I am living vicariously through you (and others at TN) at the moment : )
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