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Aug 14, 2012, 05:54 PM
#21
This one shouldn't even need votes for the banner. The fact it's been avoided with other stuff going up in the last 24 hours shows this website doesn't really have much of a handle on what's an ok button vs a good button vs a great button. I can understand that because nobody knows it all, but let me give you a hint.... It's a great one!
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Aug 14, 2012 05:54 PM
# ADS
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Aug 14, 2012, 06:07 PM
#22
Awesome find! This button should be up on top.
It's easier to burn down and barn than it is to build one.
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Aug 14, 2012, 06:13 PM
#23
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
This one shouldn't even need votes for the banner. The fact it's been avoided with other stuff going up in the last 24 hours shows this website doesn't really have much of a handle on what's an ok button vs a good button vs a great button. I can understand that because nobody knows it all, but let me give you a hint.... It's a great one! 
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
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Aug 14, 2012, 06:13 PM
#24
I have to agree. I could not believe my USA button didn't make it in the first day of posting. I think there is a sense of, really NOT knowing the rarity and value, (condition) of a true Banner find, especially in the relic department. It shouldn't take a week of nominations to constitute this. This button has it all! Get it up there!!!
1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued 
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Aug 14, 2012, 06:18 PM
#25
What the hell I missed this thread. Of course it's a banner find.
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Aug 15, 2012, 06:27 AM
#26
1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800.....To be continued 
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Aug 15, 2012, 06:41 AM
#27
Rev War button- rare, PRETTY.. banner vote
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Aug 15, 2012, 07:17 AM
#28
I am waiting for a pile of clad to make the banner. The way things have changed in what people are posting anymore it's just a matter of time.
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Aug 15, 2012, 07:33 AM
#29
you got another banner from me....Great button!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 15, 2012, 11:02 AM
#30
I think I forgot to vote this one, so will join in........!
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground.' 30/09/12
We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
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Aug 15, 2012, 11:27 AM
#31
 Originally Posted by umrgolf
Rev War button- rare, PRETTY.. banner vote 
I would say even rarer than your plate for numbers because I doubt there's many more that exist than the 4 from VA.
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Aug 15, 2012, 12:29 PM
#32
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
I would say even rarer than your plate for numbers because I doubt there's many more that exist than the 4 from VA.
You're prob right. I'd imagine there are quite a few more buckles out there than 30, likely more have found them and not reported. So with this button, 4 recorded, there might be 10-15 total in collections and half of those are prob fried
Bottom line is even if it were fried, with rarity like that it's a trophy find... but obviously its appearance is nearly perfect
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Aug 15, 2012, 01:41 PM
#33
You have one heck of an area going there... Great finds!
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Aug 15, 2012, 05:26 PM
#34
 Originally Posted by umrgolf
You're prob right. I'd imagine there are quite a few more buckles out there than 30, likely more have found them and not reported. So with this button, 4 recorded, there might be 10-15 total in collections  and half of those are prob fried
Bottom line is even if it were fried, with rarity like that it's a trophy find... but obviously its appearance is nearly perfect
Hard to say what is in private hands because someone could have found the remains of a coat, but just kept the find to himself. But my gut says very few known because I have paid attention to numbered British officer buttons for a long time and you don't see many found, not just in the US, but in the UK as well. I have never seen a 76th found or for sale, and I bet the other three mentioned are in collections and never move. It's a shame no one wants to drop much for these now because this button should be an easy grand. It certainly wouldn't be for sale if mine, even at that price, because I have basically been looking for a Rev War numbered British officer button since I started detecting.
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Aug 15, 2012, 06:15 PM
#35
Did you find this in yorktown? I have been to the battlefield many a time and i never thought you could detect there. Congrats on the find though!!
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Aug 15, 2012, 06:41 PM
#36
 Originally Posted by Chimacum87
Did you find this in yorktown? I have been to the battlefield many a time and i never thought you could detect there. Congrats on the find though!!
You are correct, metal detecting is strictly prohibited on any National Park. When I was researching the button I looked up data provided by the NPS concerning the battle of Yorktown and the 76th Regiment of Foot. The information they provide is the most thorough data I could find concerning this regiment and their time in Virginia. They have carefully outlined all the different regiments that fought in the battle telling how many men were in each regiment and who their commanding officer was. Before the battle of Yorktown, in July of 1781, the 76th Regiment of Foot spent a week in Williamsburg under Cornwallis where they fought at the battle of Greensprings. In this battle they actually won defeating Lafayette. I can assume that the button was lost during this time period since the button was discovered several miles outside of Williamsburg. This area saw Civil War activity as well. Southeastern Virginia is rich is history spanning from the time the first English settlers arrived in Jamestown in 1609 to the present. Again thanks for all the nice responces and banner votes I have received. Iron Patch is correct. I have searched this area for 25 yrs and this is the first British button I have EVER heard of being found. I honestly never thought I'd find one and I feel so fortunate to be able to finally be able to cross it off my list. It is truly a beautiful relic that is directly associated with our freedom and independence!
Last edited by Devonrex; Aug 18, 2012 at 09:50 PM.
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Aug 15, 2012, 06:52 PM
#37
This si a faqntastic button
I vote baner!
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Aug 16, 2012, 12:19 AM
#38
Another amazing find you have made Devonrex! Congratulations, and yes,this definitely deserves to be up top!! Voting now!!!
IM
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Aug 16, 2012, 06:49 AM
#39
Wow, beautiful button! Nice finds and a big pile of bullets to top it off, great hunt! Is the cuff button in the lower part of the pic a navy or confederate staff? HH
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Aug 16, 2012, 12:45 PM
#40
 Originally Posted by MKnTenn
Wow, beautiful button! Nice finds and a big pile of bullets to top it off, great hunt! Is the cuff button in the lower part of the pic a navy or confederate staff? HH
The button you are referring to is a Confederate Officer Staff button with 13 stars, vest or tunic size (16mm). As far as rarity goes you can't get much rarer! Apparently this is only the second to have been found of this size. This button will be featured in North South Trader's Civil War magazine in the upcoming issue. I documented it on this site when I discovered it a few months ago. Check out Sentinel's Website where it is listed in their banner finds.
Last edited by Devonrex; Aug 16, 2012 at 01:00 PM.
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