Sweet Colonial Tombac Find, and a Perfect Spear Point

[FoundInNC]

Today I went to a 1750s site in Mebane. I dug three keepers. My best find is debatable. I got a really neat tombac item. The reason that it is so cool is because it has an American flag cast onto it, with THIRTEEN STARS! That dates it to 1777-1795, or the years of use of the thirteen star flag! What the item is, i do not know! So, please help if you can on that. My second awesome find was not metallic! It was a spear point that popped out of the hole while digging a plowpoint! How old is it? My last neat find was a very early coffin style brass spoon. The makers mark is hard to read. Help with my ID please! Thanks for looking, enjoy the pictures!

 

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[Erik in NJ]

Well either you got the world's record for the biggest button ever found!

Or it's a bridle rosette. Nice one too! Congrats!

 

[FoundInNC]

Never said it was a button! Tombac is the material it is made of, brass, alloy! Could it be a huge button, not being funny?

 

[dsinsc]

That point is beautiful, I started out my treasure hunting days hunting arrowheads before I got a detector. The thing with the flag is actually a bell, I've dug them whole with different designs on them. Probably date later 1800's early 1900's but I've never really researched them, just going by the sites I've dug them from.

 

[plymouthian12]

The flag looks more like an old bicycle bell sorry just my opinion
kent

 

[sscindercoop]

Yup bell, Doesn't look 18th century to me. Nice find though regardless of age.

That point is beautiful, I started out my treasure hunting days hunting arrowheads before I got a detector. The thing with the flag is actually a bell, I've dug them whole with different designs on them. Probably date later 1800's early 1900's but I've never really researched them, just going by the sites I've dug them from.

 

[Tnmountains]

The point or knife looks to be a stanly around 8000 to 5000 years old. Not 100% sure on the typology but am close. Has a deep bifuricate base.
I would say that is your oldest find of the day. Nice hunt.
HH
TnMtns

 

[FoundInNC]

Dsinsc, I thank you for your input. I would like to see a picture of the bells you refer to. Also, I am confident this item predates bicycles(1869). It is made of tombac, a common colonial casting material.

 

[sscindercoop]

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[FoundInNC]

I appreciate your input, but that is not what I have. There is no central hole in mine, but the "service bell" does have to have it to operate.

 

[Don in SJ]

Been a few posted over the years, it is a bicycle bell.
Read the entire link,this was a What is it that was solved, as a bicycle bell
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/w...-help-id-copper-bronze-hub-flag-13-stars.html

Don

 

[dsinsc]

Dsinsc, I thank you for your input. I would like to see a picture of the bells you refer to. Also, I am confident this item predates bicycles(1869). It is made of tombac, a common colonial casting material.

Hi, I never said it was a bicycle bell just a bell I just did a quick search on a clerks bell and here's what came up Victorian trading Co. - www.victoriantradingco.com - Clerk's Bell This is a repro and Yours is built a little different since it doesn't have a hole all the way through but same basic concept.

 

[sscindercoop]

I appreciate your input, but that is not what I have. There is no central hole in mine, but the "service bell" does have to have it to operate.

Sorry posted wrong pics

 

[joeyfresh]

Beautiful point and the bicycle bell dome is cool too. Check out this cool bell! http://noamberg.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Snake-bell.jpeg

 

[Tnmountains]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/todays-finds/80796-nc-nc-weather-woes-but-few-finds.html

 

[ChargerGuy]

That bifurcate point looks like it could be made of Rhyolite.

 

[timekiller]

The point or knife looks to be a stanly around 8000 to 5000 years old. Not 100% sure on the typology but am close. Has a deep bifuricate base.
I would say that is your oldest find of the day. Nice hunt.
HH
TnMtns

Sounds close enough by it's look.Also made out off Rhyolite..............
Spoon of course is a fiddle back.
http://www.pastmasters.info/PewterSpoons.pdf
Good hunt all the same,
Take Care,
Pete,

 

[Erik in NJ]

Note the shoulders on the spoon just above the bowl. These should help to date the spoon. I just found a pewter spoon fragment with shoulders too. It's a nice find. Perhaps Pete has some more spoon links that discuss spoon "shoulders."

 

[FoundInNC]

I'll be, what a letdown! Thanks for the help fellas! I had high hopes for it! I don't have much love for it as a bicycle bell!

 

[timekiller]

Note the shoulders on the spoon just above the bowl. These should help to date the spoon. I just found a pewter spoon fragment with shoulders too. It's a nice find. Perhaps Pete has some more spoon links that discuss spoon "shoulders."

I do buddy,This one shows the shoulders you ask about dating 1820ish.....................
1- http://www.pewterbank.com/Spoons_..articles..13.pdf
2- http://www.bexfield.co.uk/thefinial/pdf/15-04.pdf
3- Pewter at Colonial Williamsburg - John D. Davis - Google Books
Take Care,
Pete,