1722 Rosa American!!!

Garabaldi

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I figured it was a King George 1st 2nd or 3rd, but the corrosion and pitting through me off, so I thought maybe its a counterfeit. Then I saw the rose on the back and looked it up and its a William Wood Rosa America token, that were rejected by the colonies. I have never found one before. The reason its in such poor condition is that it is made of 24.7% zink. the rest is 75%copper and .3% silver. I am just super excited I found this coin. I also found a great Waltham watch factory pocket watch. Unfortunately I washed the face with water and rubbed off the black hand painted numbers, but you live and learn. I am assuming its gold plated. Also found 6 Winthrop Beach Casino umbrella tags. Casino's have been illegal in mass for years, so I have to figure out whats the deal with these.
The other interesting bronze piece looks like it would have went on the end of something. 004.JPG 003.JPG 001.JPG 002.JPG 005.JPG 006.JPG 010.JPG 009.JPG 014.JPG
 

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matt092079

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Great coin and congrats on I.Ding it!
 

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WoW. That coin is awesome.
 

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nice hunt and finds , like the rosa !! ? brass , looks like an ox horn knob
 

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Sweet finds, that bronze thing looks like a Cain handle, the rosa Americana is really cool to, I'd love find one of those!
 

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now that's a hunt! I would do the happy dance too if I pulled that out of the ground! That's some exciting stuff!
 

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Very cool.Hey ,I found one of those topper thingies awhile back.Never IDed it.
 

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congrats - they are rare - found my one and only behind a early 1700's house farm field
here is how mine came out of the ground - I was able to clean it with electrolysis
rosaamr.jpg
 

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wow, great find. Looks like a good spot your in. Maybe the brass thing is the tip to an umbrella? Like the big ones resorts would put on the beach, say a resort like a casino? Those tags are hella cool too...

I found a 1788 Connecticut Copper sitting on the sill of a fallen in farm house once, its the only colonial coin I've ever held, let a alone find, its so worn you can hardly make anything out, but man is it cool...
 

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Those are hard coins to find in good shape. Coin-grats on a nice one!

Yeah, anything painted has to dry completely and be dry brushed, otherwise it will brush off. I learned that the hard way with handpainted marbles. :(

P.S.--the big brass piece is certainly a hame topper.
 

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WICKED history!! CONGRATS.. HH
 

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CASPER-2 said:
congrats - they are rare - found my one and only behind a early 1700's house farm field
here is how mine came out of the ground - I was able to clean it with electrolysis
<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=728181"/>

Very nice Casper,
It was dark and last target I dug for the day. I new it was larger than a quarter so thought it was a large copper, but the weight of it thoroughly me off so I put it in my pouch. When I got home I thought it might be a presidential commemorative piece.
Glad i joined the Rosa club!
It's the zink that caused issues.
Thanks for all the feedback.

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Very cool coin bud! That is one that has eluded me over the years, though you dont see many dug in the south in general.

WTG!
 

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Very Cool Finds,Thanks For Sharing!!

HH John
 

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The Rosa is a rare find. if it's a little bigger than a quarter it's the Penny, the tuppence are up at 32mm.
W. Woods was striking these at the same time as the more common Hibernia issues, the use of Bath Metal had him reduce the diameter & weight of the Rosas by 50% compared to the copper Hibernias, I got a nice little nickel sized Rosa halfpence the other day, saw the bust first and assumed it was another Hibernia farthing, till I flipped it over.
Woods issues were originally intended for use in Ireland, but not well recieved there.
They were shipped to the Colonies where ANY small coinage was scarce and much needed.
(though they were unpopular here also)
Great info on Rosas here, Rosa Americana Coppers: Introduction continue to Rosa Americana Coppers for pix and specs.
No halfpence pictured :( ?? so here's an 'as dug' Halfpence https://picasaweb.google.com/113419939163637200161/ROSAHALFPENCE?authkey=Gv1sRgCJqNrvXJyOOgggE

Dr Mossmann at ND would appreciate hearing about your find to add info to his Colonial Coin Circulation Survey.
congrats on a good'un !!
 

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the reverse is similar to the British farthings ... very interesting.
 

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Why I can't I ever find things like this????
 

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Way to go on the Rosa! Besides the crappy alloy that was used they were supposedly also struck on a hot planchet. That caused minute gas bubbles to eventually rise to the surface and give all dug Rosa Americanas that pimpley look. I've been fortunate to dig 2 and tey look similar to yours. A great find for sure !
 

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