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  1. #16
    Incredible Herbie! Noe 28 is ID. Very Rare. R-6....13-30 known. Great coin and ID! BANNER. Detail is awesome! Hogge
    Last edited by hogge; May 12, 2013 at 09:08 AM. Reason: Additional info added
    1783 CFT. KG III 1/2 Penny (25-83A)-1 of 3 known *Sold $3,750, Vermont Landscape Coppers Ryder 6 *Sold $760, Ryder7 (Avatar)** Sold $1,275*,1st Batt Royal Artillery Cartridge Box Sling Belt Tip* SOLD $1,583*,(3)- GW Inaugural Buttons-2-Cobb# 17-J.* Sold both--$405 and $400. *GW Button Cobb 17-I-*Sold $316- New Jersey Copper M14-J Sold $125- Continental Army Button *Sold $800--** British 31st ROF Cartridge Box Plate** SOLD!! (PRIVATE AMOUNT), Vermont Ryder-3 *$1200...To be continued

  2. #17
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    Amazing find(s). Great post.
    Banner
    Thanks
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  3. #18
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    Wow, are you guys down in New England planting these things? Lol. Very nice coin and I would say easily Banner worthy.
    Just to let you know (if you don't all ready know) that there were several Tree Shillings found up here in NS on a 1711 wreck of the HMS Feversham. But no more will surface, at least not legally due to new laws being passed stopping all salvage of shipwrecks.
    Anyway, vote is going in,
    Congrats on finding a beautiful coin and a great write up,
    ZDD
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  4. #19
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    great rare find !!!!!!!!
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  5. #20
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    nice find congrats HH

  6. #21
    Congratulations to the Winner!

    Jan 2010
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    Thanks All!
    Bill,
    I wish it was that easy, research found this site, though I thought the goodies would be in the water.
    (Sometimes it is easy, I found 'lot 26' with its slew of early coins & relics, (1796 HC and R6 Rosa) by random iron patch hunting)
    I figured that the hillside was built up, and maybe it was.
    Some think that filled areas are not worthy of search, but maybe the fill used came from the clearing of a more historic
    site than the area it ended up filling
    Like a lot of happenings in the MD world, Ya just never know....
    since you asked,(blush) my totals are now 8 -17th C silvers, 4 of them are MA Silvers
    (edited)

    Dawg, thanks for the praise ! This one is so much better than the salt finds

    Hogge, thanks for that confirmation ! It's the same 'R' number as my Oak shilling, but much better shape

    ZDD, I am fascinated with the Feversham, a veritable time capsule that showed the coinage in circulation CA 1710.
    I use it as an example to show people that Mass Silvers were commonly used and circulated throughout the colonies and abroad. It left New York with a chest of coins acquired from those currently in circulation before wrecking.
    The amount of Mass silver was only exceeded by Spanish coins.
    It is a crying shame that beaurocracy has stopped the search for history.
    Here's an undocumented and overpriced Feversham Oak Shilling for sale,
    I'd say $500 tops if I were in the market for a cleaned shilling
    http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/calg...7/Default.aspx

    Thanks for all your replies! Trees are everywhere, just gotta get the coil over them


    "While in New York City it was recorded on September 4, 1711, that the Feversham was given £569 12s5d from the British treasury office in New York. It is not known if these funds were to be used to pay for the supplies recently acquired or if this was money to be brought to Quebec for future use. In either event it represented the coins then in circulation in New York City. On September 17, 1711 the Feversham along with the three supply ships set sail for Quebec. In the meantine, the British invasion fleet had been wrecked on August 14, 1711 in the St. Lawrence River, but news of the disaster did not reach New York until the day after the Feversham set sail. On Sunday October 7, 1711, during their journey north, the Feversham and the three supply ships sank on the rocks off the shore of Scatari Island near the coast of Nova Scotia. In 1984 the Feversham was found by a private group that conducted salvage operations over the next few years. Among the items found on board were £33 13s in coins, presumably a portion of the allocation that had been obtained in New York City. This hoard contained 8 English silver coins, 22 Dutch coins (Lion dollars), 5 coins from Spain, 504 New World Spanish coins (from one half to 8 reales coins) and 126 pieces of Massachusetts silver."
    Last edited by steelheadwill; May 13, 2013 at 06:56 AM.
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  7. #22
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    Amazing great find Herbie . Jim
    If Mother Earth give,s us precious metals like gold silver copper and iron why leave them in the ground to disappear forever , dig them out and save History !!

    4-12-2011 Retired from the Rat Race by Choice

  8. #23
    Congratulations to the Winner!

    Jan 2010
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff H View Post
    That's just beyond cool Herbie . Drive your truck down to MA and I will find that groat for you.
    Jeff, about the only thing I can keep organized is the photos on my computer...
    everything else is a jumble. I 'refound' a bag of dug gold jewelery I had stashed in the tin last time I was craving homemade blueberry muffins.
    They are in there somewhere.
    PM me about what kind of diggin you like, I'm a Salem native, maybe we get a hunt in...
    Desire is oft more pleasant than acquisition

  9. #24
    Congratulations to the Winner!

    Jan 2010
    New Castle NH.
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    Thanks Jim! Good to hear from you I gotta go see Mom, Happy MD and Mothers Day All !! Herbie
    Desire is oft more pleasant than acquisition

  10. #25
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    Awesome find, congrats on condition.

    5 17th C Silvers in a year, that is pretty damn impressive, I'm still waiting on number 1.
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  11. #26
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    BANNER! This is a awesome piece of history! Its not every day that you find a coin dating from 1652 in New England! HH!
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  12. #27
    You find MA silver like others can't even find Spanish!

    That coin looks more corroded than pitted so should clean up well.
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  13. #28
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    WONDERFUL FINDS! I'm in awe of the wonderful coins & historical items that you unearth. Always look forward to seeing more!
    My father's ancestors settled in early 1600's in what's now Massachusetts, New Hampshire & Vermont, so colonial items from these states are of special interest to me. My dad, who was born & raised in Keene, N.H. was apparently the first of the family in several hundred years to head south for warmer climes when he moved to Washington, D.C. as a very young man. Several times in the past, I visited the Keene area, which is so beautiful, and saw some of the well-made houses that my great-grandparents & other family members had built with their own hands. These houses are no longer in our family, but it feels good that people still live in & enjoy them. Andi
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  14. #29
    VERY NICE COIN!

    Groat Are you sure? That would be very unusual!
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    most excellent!
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