Montana Military Fort- yesterdays Indian Wars finds

jagdpolizei

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Montana Military Fort- yesterday's Indian Wars finds

Hello......I am new to this site and relatively new to detecting, however have become addicted to this hobby. I just have a couple of questions regarding my finds. I found a gilt military button and the 5 'round' shot in the same 5 square foot spot. The lead composition shot were all scattered in the same 2' area and look exactly alike. The 2 copper cartridge cases were found nearby and spec. out to 50-70; however they are missing the heads/rims.....the other 2 slugs are typical 45-70 fired slugs.
My questions: 1) the lead round 'shot' are all elongated and have multiple sprue-like flats about each ball......were they just bad cast attempts or were they fired as canister shot causing the flats as the rounds compressed during firing?? See pics.....wondering if anyone else has found lead shot/round balls like this? 2) never seen the cartridge cases missing the heads/rims and wondering if anyone else has recovered the copper shells like this? Could Nat. Americans have altered them as jewelry? Any examples or ideas? See pics.,....thanks so much in advance for any help
 

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Interesting finds-- sorry I can't answer your questions about the casings. I do know if you take cast lead shot and leave it in storage for a long time, the shot will get flat contact spots where they touch as the rest of the lead oxidizes. The oxidation might peel off to leave the pattern you see, or they might be cast in cold molds. Interesting the shot looks oval instead of spherical. Maybe they were casting rejects. Can't imagine they would be fired in that shape, unless they were fired as a cluster from a cannon.
 

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