🥇 BANNER The One We Have Waited For, Privy Heaven!!!!

jgas

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Hello all treasure freaks this is the one we have waited for. The one I gave a little teaser trailer on with the previous digs that I posted. This one took a bit to get it all together and all cleaned up after the fantastic dig that we had just unearthed. I suppose it all started a few years ago with the first pit that we had dug and discovered what a great hobby it was to actually dig up history. Several hundred pits later and we finally hit a privy that I think will go down as one of the best experiences I have had treasure hunting.
It started out with some luck, then we added just a little bit more luck and topped it off with a whole lot of luck! The timing was crazy too. Started off by just driving around to see where the excavators were digging up a bit of a parking lot. Found one pretty close to the city center so we thought we had a good chance to check it out. So we waited for the workers to stop for the day, then Gary had to probe it for the pits. It was late and he actually found a good one. But it was too late to dig with no lights. Kinda dangerous. :tongue3: So the next day came around and the excavators were back at it. So we waited for our time to pounce on it after he stopped pushing dirt around. He was so close to the privy that I just had to say something to the dozer driver. Usually I hate to interrupt their work but this one we had to take a chance. As luck would have it he said that he was almost done for the day and that he would leave the pit area alone, but just for one day. So all or nothing for tonight. One chance to dig this pit that we knew would be great. Gary had found a pontil Canker Balsam bottle right on top. Figuring everything below would be just as old or older. So at a feverish pitch we began to excavate what would be an unbelievable evening.

So it was Don, myself and Gary going at it. You have to be super careful because pontil bottles are fragile. Down about 5 feet we hit the top of the "Use Layer". Pontil Heaven!!:headbang: We started to hit Scroll Flasks like it was the factory for them. One after another after another. Aqua, then the great site of an amber one. What a great day to be a digger. The amber one alone is huge. I'm sure it would bring a pretty penny all by itself. Then a kinda heart breaker one. A true Sapphire color scroll flask with the top knocked off. But still an incredible find. Then more aqua scrolls, pints and half pint. Then we hot a streak of medicines, cures and bitters bottles. All iron or open pontil bottles. All dating to around 1850. Crazy time had by all. The medicines saw the light of day for the first time in over 150 years. Radway RRR pontils, Dr. Bakers Pain Panacea, Dr. Wrights Indian Vegetable Syrup, Budd's Bone Wound Liniment, Ayers Cherry Pectoral all pontiled. Then a great looking C.T. Hughes & Co pepper sauce with an open pontil. Some miscellaneous unmarked tubular bottles and 4 Iron Pontil Udolpho Wolfe's Aromatic Schnapps that were iron pontil. Then 9 John Moffat Phoenix Bitters showed their faces after a century of slumber. Unbelievable. That's all we could say to each other.

Then to finish the pit Gary found a great Ravina Glass Company Travelers Companion flask in amber. And a nice ale tri mold bottle was picked out as well. Everything we pulled out was either Iron Pontil or open pontil. I could not believe the privy that we had all just experienced and captured forever on film. All tallied we pulled over 50 pontil bottles from the pit that just might surpass the $5,000 mark. But no matter what the price we eventually get for them it will never pass the amount of fun and great times we had spent just wondering how very lucky we were to get to dig this pit. Once in a few hundred privies we may get the chance, but we know reality, this may never ever happen again. A once in a lifetime chance really, but it sure paid off in good times and the fact that we can be treasure hunters in this great country and share this history with everyone! Thanks for looking everyone, be safe out there and we hope to do some more digging real soon. Until next time, jgas
 

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Jason in Enid

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I don't know anything about bottle collecting but It's amazing that most of them are in one piece. Why are they all in one spot? Were the early settlers into recycling?

These were dug out of a "privy" which is another word for an outhouse. They were also used as trash pits since there was no city trash collection. Since the bottom of the hole was ummm....soft..... a lot of glass survived.
 

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Killer sauce, this Hughes. My Zumwalt is packed away somewhere, so I've not got the bigger picture, but this is an age point for you.

"Pickles, Preserves, Sauces, etc. Two establishments. — Twelve
hands ; value of product, twenty-five thousand dollars ; raw m'ate-
rial, 40 per cent.

C. T. Hughes, & Co., 1 Hopple's Alley, put up pickles, preserves,
sauces, catsups, and hermetically sealed articles, warranted to keep
in all climates. Their customers are in every part of the south
and south-west." Full text of "Sketches and statistics of Cincinnati in 1851"

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DanKnug

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Those are some truly fantastic finds! Was it any problem to get permission to dig? No problems from the local police wanting to know what you were doing?
 

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Thanks for all the fantastic replies everyone. And thanks for all the banner votes. It was truly a fantastic dig for all of us. The "fire" in the hole was just a craftsman flashlight as it was getting too dark to see. The pictures appear to be a fire. As for permission, the police never bother us. In fact they come and watch us all the time being that I am one. LOL...It does take time and research to look up the maps, the area as it was back then. Then the probing for pits is hard on the body as well. But as you can see it was well worth the dig. Not sure if we will ever find anything like this again but we will surely try and try again! Thanks again for all the great replies and kudos, it is much appreciated. Keep on Digging Treasure my friends! jgas
 

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Thanks for all the fantastic replies everyone. And thanks for all the banner votes. It was truly a fantastic dig for all of us. The "fire" in the hole was just a craftsman flashlight as it was getting too dark to see. The pictures appear to be a fire. As for permission, the police never bother us. In fact they come and watch us all the time being that I am one. LOL...It does take time and research to look up the maps, the area as it was back then. Then the probing for pits is hard on the body as well. But as you can see it was well worth the dig. Not sure if we will ever find anything like this again but we will surely try and try again! Thanks again for all the great replies and kudos, it is much appreciated. Keep on Digging Treasure my friends! jgas

Thanks for the answer hahahaha. I was way off! Awesome find you get my vote as well
 

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These were dug out of a "privy" which is another word for an outhouse. They were also used as trash pits since there was no city trash collection. Since the bottom of the hole was ummm....soft..... a lot of glass survived.

Jason thanks for informing me. I remember my aunt and uncle had an outhouse that they didn't use any longer because they had upgraded to in house plumbing but they would keep a wooden box on the side of it full of dry corn husks just for show.
 

Jason in Enid

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Jason thanks for informing me. I remember my aunt and uncle had an outhouse that they didn't use any longer because they had upgraded to in house plumbing but they would keep a wooden box on the side of it full of dry corn husks just for show.

The thing with privy holes is that they got full, so they would move a little ways over and dig a new one and fill the other one with dirt. Since most of this was over 100 years ago, any bad material or bacteria, etc has long since disappeared. So you might have some good bottle digging if they let you.
 

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Salutations, JGas,

I trust you guys are still basking in the afterglow of this dig. I'd be ecstatically fondling, and studying that glass, had I been one of you fortunate few. I wanna see more photos of everything! I've been digging for many moons, and have only turned up shards of a Scroll on two occasions. My friend Steve has a new website that features some scrolls you might enjoy: Scroll Flasks 1828 to 1875 - Historical American Glass

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Another fantastic piece of glass from an historic Midwestern glass house. My kinda psykness, too, it appears. See page 9 here for some history of the Ravenna Glass Works: http://www.case.edu/artsci/wrss/documents/Zimmerman_004.pdf For those who like auction results, here's a notable one: Lot 134: "Traveler's / (Star) / Companion" - "Ravenna / (Star) / Glass Co" Flask, GXIV-3

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...Some miscellaneous unmarked tubular bottles and 4 Iron Pontil Udolpho Wolfe's Aromatic Schnapps that were iron pontil. Then 9 John Moffat Phoenix Bitters showed their faces after a century of slumber. Unbelievable...

If the tubular ones you mentioned are in the group to the left in the back rows, I'd say you found a raft of Godfrey's Cordials, with perhaps a Dalby's or two. Pediatricians are still talking about them: WHAT WERE GODFREY'S CORDIAL AND DALBY'S CARMINATIVE?

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I know many, if not most TNetters are not bottle diggers, or particular aficionados, but I'm actually mystified that more members are not apparently recognizing a Legendary Dig, when they see one. Nine Phoenix Bitters, damn!

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DiggerDave in Pa.

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WOW! That is a banner pit all day. Those are some great finds. Most treasure hunters don't know how rare it is to dig bottles of this age and quality. The blue scroll would be a good one to get repaired. You got my vote. Thanks for sharing! DDinPA.
 

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Thanks everyone for the continued kudos on the dig of a lifetime. In fact we have been kicking around the idea of repairing the sapphire scroll. Not sure of anyone who might do that though. I could use some guidance in that direction if anyone knows. I/ we are humbled by the banner votes that's for sure. I'm still shaking my head whenever I look at these little beauties! Thanks again everyone. Jgas
 

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I never collected a bottle in my life, but you gotta love the history you found- way to get r done!
 

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I'm in awe,your finds are simply beautiful.i have always been intrigued by old bottles and hope to find some old ones one day intact.
 

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GOOD LORD, what a great dig! I know you guys are on cloud NINE! But, never say never. There are always new pits to find, and no one can ever say it's "the best one I'll ever dig." Who knows what the next pit will reveal.

Congrats!


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Man, to dig that many old, very old bottles at one site is simply amazing! Out here I've yet to even see a older pontil, so to view your finds got me salivating like Pavlov's Dog!
Beautiful bottles, and what killer variety!
Kudos, Mucho Kudos!
Carl
 

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