Really BIG Bullets, Cannon ordinance ?

[BC1969]

Was searching around a old home site that dates to the 1850's today, there is a old outdoor chimney type thing way out back near the woods, well I was searching around it and noticed there was a cavity in the furnace thingy, reached in and felt something cold, went to grab it but I could'nt really lift it with one hand, so I had remove a few old bricks, to get them out.
Biggest damn bullets I have ever seen, the big one must weigh 50 pounds, and the little one maybe 35 pounds, the smaller of the 2 has, it looks like brass rifling.
I do not have a camera, so I will do the best I can with my crappy phone.
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Also found this silver what-is-it
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Any ideas on them bullets, I would really appreciate it, I cannot find anything close to them.

Mike

 

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[NOLA_Ken]

LiveLeak.com - Only working and firing WW2 90mm Anti-Tank Gun in the United States Firing the 90mm with solid shot anti tank rounds.... There are a couple there that look like HE though.....


Contact the collector site I posted earlier and get their pinion on it. Odds are it's a solid shot and not HE, and the part in the base is an expended tracer, but it's best to get a good idea what you're dealing with. You may also be able to find someone who can disarm it for you. If you hand it over to the police you'll never see it again whether it's explosive or not.

 

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[pippinwhitepaws]

I have some stories about turning in explosives to the police...

last resort, and do call ahead, don't just show up and tell them you have some explosives in the truck....

kicking a beehive has better results...
but no..you will not be in trouble, after you explain every little detail about that round.

as Ken suggests, contact the person he recommended...

 

[BC1969]

OK thank you Ken and Don, I will do that.

Mike

 

[pippinwhitepaws]

nice finds...hope they are inert...

 

[gforce1972]

Update?

 

[WolfmoonX]

Update?

His new screen name is now "STUBS".

 

[piegrande]

Re: his comment about keeping it on his desk.

I am Irish enough I actually understand that. Sounds right to me.

 

[BC1969]

Update. I planned on having a guy from the state bomb squad look at them, but was told that could go bad for me, could even incur charges..go figure! so until I can find somebody that can actually come to me, versus me transporting them again..they will stay on my desk, makes for some interesting conversations.

Mike

 

[RJ55]

arty shells

If that's a shell with white phosphorus, that's some wicked crap too. will burn you clean through the bone. Ouchee/ nickname WP or willie pete

 

[Hendo0601]

I'm no artillery ordnance expert (I was light infantry so we didn't mess with this stuff) but I have seen quite a few artillery rounds in my day. These appear to both be solid shot Armor Piercing (AP) rounds with tracer charge in the base. High Explosive (HE) rounds generally have an impact fuse on the nose of the shell, so that when it hits the target it will explode. The fuse is removable to make them safe for transport etc. I would still get them checked out just to be safe though.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

BC1969, back in September 2013, NOLA-Ken advised you TWICE to contact the folks at the International Ammunition Association (by email) to get the correct identification of your artillery projectiles. In the 11 months since then, you haven't said anything about following Ken's advice. Did you ever get around to doing that?

If not... please simply send an email (with your photos) to the artillery projectile collectors at the International Ammunition Association, at the following link (which Ken gave you 11 months ago). They will be able to correctly ID your projectiles, and tell you whether there's any danger or not, and they won't call the police about you. Title your email to them "Artillery projectile identification needed, here are the photos." (Be sure to include length and diameter measurements.)
Contact Us - International Ammunition Association

 

[BC1969]

thanks cannonball, that was why I did not do it before, was afraid they would call the cops, I'll do it now.

Mike

 

[PSHeirlooms]

Not true Hendo, APHE or AP-C have rear inertia or time delay fuze and a ballistic cap on the front to detonate after penetration. Here is an example: Otherwise your instincts are good, and of course, always have an expert verify before fingering.

The larger looks like a US M318 AP-T without the ballistic cone. Not enough info on the 75mm (76-mm AP Shot?) but it is almost certainly an AP-T as well.

BC1969, Please send me side photo's of both with a clear ruler next to the projectiles and caliper measurements of the bourrelet (widest section other than the rotating bands at mid section.

 

[WildWildBill]

Just gotta find the gun that shoots them!!!

 

[nsdq]

UXO's are not something i would pick up are handle

 

[PSHeirlooms]

UXO's are not something i would pick up are handle

I agree nsdq. Leave it to the pros. In this case the tracers on the base plate are key ID features of AP-T or AP Shot (Big Slugs).

 

[BC1969]

BC1969, back in September 2013, NOLA-Ken advised you TWICE to contact the folks at the International Ammunition Association (by email) to get the correct identification of your artillery projectiles. In the 11 months since then, you haven't said anything about following Ken's advice. Did you ever get around to doing that?

If not... please simply send an email (with your photos) to the artillery projectile collectors at the International Ammunition Association, at the following link (which Ken gave you 11 months ago). They will be able to correctly ID your projectiles, and tell you whether there's any danger or not, and they won't call the police about you. Title your email to them "Artillery projectile identification needed, here are the photos." (Be sure to include length and diameter measurements.)
Contact Us - International Ammunition Association

After a while after this post, I completely forgot about them things.
Which is kind of bad.
I never did email anyone about them.
A trusted friend suggested that I don't, so I didn't.