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    SIG SEMPER TYRANNIS VIRGINIA (plate)

    Found this item today. Would like to have validated by the civil war pros here on this forum. Measures 2.5 inches across .Thanks for any input.
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    Last edited by Gary1963; Oct 02, 2013 at 08:37 PM.
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    Sic Semper Tyrannis "Thus ever to tyrants" I'm no expert, but it looks like the pics I looked up.
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    WOAH!! I'll let the pros/experts on here confirm it, but it looks to me like a VA cross belt plate. I think they are very rare. I'll definiteley be watching this thread to see what happens...you might have an amazing find! Either way,AWESOME!
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    Seems a little small for a breastplate at 2.5 inches in diameter, but it's gotta be a breastplate.

    I have seen and held VA sword belt plates. But I've never even seen a VA breastplate. My O'Donnell book is not handy right now, but I'm sure someone with a copy will ID that item for you shortly.

    Cheers,

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    Last edited by BuckleBoy; Sep 27, 2013 at 08:50 PM.
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    They are listed at 65 mm. Or 2.5"
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckleBoy View Post
    Seems a little small for a breastplate at 2.5 inches in diameter, but it's gotta be a breastplate.

    I have seen and held VA sword belt plates. But I've never even seen a VA breastplate. My O'Donnell book is not handy right now, but I'm sure someone with a copy will ID that item for you shortly.

    Cheers,

    Buck

    Don't remember this one?

    I think I may have found something good


    Note one of the posts....

    Southie E.J. wondering if yours has the pin hook backside
    like in fig B,i cant find a pic of the back of the seal
    to see what it looks like, could we see the back, of yours
    and see which one you have,they look a lot alike from the
    front,both are prob equally rare, nice finds

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    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ted.google.com

    B
    MORE BUCKLES: PAGE TWO
    T - 121 Virginia Breast Plate

    Circa 1850

    (T-121 can be cast as a breast plate or buckle.)

    TG- 121 Virginia Breast Plate

    "original look with the pin type attachment"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flathead25 View Post
    They are listed at 65 mm. Or 2.5"
    Were they Pin-backed or lead-filled?

    These VA breastplates have gotta be rare as they can be. I've seen a lot of fine VA relics, but never seen one dug.

    This belongs on the banner, IMO.
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    Pin backed from what I can find. I'm with you on the banner!
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    Ridgeway has one on his site. References "Mullinax expanded edition, plate 437". Stamped brass with pin back.
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    The picture on the right is the back. Iron patch T-121 looks like it. The only other info I've found was that it was pre civil war, usually mount on a light web belt and was not suited for hard campaigning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch View Post
    Never saw it. I would have replied if I had! Contrary to popular belief I don't look at everything that is posted on Tnet. Probably passed over it with a title like "i think i may have found something good."

    I'll be honest, this plate belongs on the finds banner. If professionally unbent (which should be a hundred dollar repair), it would likely go for the 5-6K range. Certainly a banner find!
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