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cti4sw

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Decided to walk the field in lengths today. Glad I did. Scored 2 colonial coppers - one a 1771 KGIII, the other is too far gone to get a date. Here they are in their plugs (bc I know dirty coins are like porn :P)

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The cleaned pics:

1771 King George III Halfpenny
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Undated King George II Halfpenny
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Also got 6 buttons and two broken buckle pieces:

Buckle pieces:
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"Best Quality" backmarked button (20mm):
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Other buttons ~ Nickel is for reference. Only the one has any obverse patterns:
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And some other small oddities:

1930 Montgomery County dog license tag:
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I think this is a lead seal or part of one, at least:
seal 1.jpg seal 2.jpg

Some lead bullets ~ Left is a spent shotgun slug, far right are spent .22s; the middle one is bigger than .45 but smaller than .50; any ideas?

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But the crown jewel of the day ~ and this even beats out my 1911 quarter eagle, imho ~ was THIS:

FH 1.jpg FH 2.jpg

There's enough detail to see it's a 1793 Flowing Hair large cent with the reverse wreath. The edge is reeded and I think lettered but I haven't done any cleaning other than to brush away most of the dirt and a peroxide dip. I can see most of the date.

Damn, what a weekend...!

CLEANING UPDATES

The pics shown above are after the initial round of cold peroxide dips that I did. At hogge's recommendation, I did two more with heated peroxide. Here they are:

FH 1A.jpg FH 1B.jpg

If you think that's an improvement, please say so, so I know I'm doing this right. Taking it one step at a time here...
 

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BuckleBoy

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Woah! That one will be GREAT for detail, and could be a BANNER find. Send a PM to Don in SJ and get the coin attributed by type if possible before you go any further on cleaning! Wow, that is one hell of a coin.

-Buck
 

hogge

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Ouch, be careful with the peroxide bath. PLEASE. I have toasted a few colonials with "THE" bath
If that happened, then the coin was too far gone anyways, or you didn't do it right.
 

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Woah! That one will be GREAT for detail, and could be a BANNER find. Send a PM to Don in SJ and get the coin attributed by type if possible before you go any further on cleaning! Wow, that is one hell of a coin.

-Buck
There are so many tiny differences in the varieties that we need to see more detail. That coin has GREAT detail, but is hidden by dirt. He needs to get it off of there. As is, this is a $5,000 coin. What is wrong with "The Banner Staff"????????
 

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NJ Marty

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If that happened, then the coin was too far gone anyways, or you didn't do it right.

With my first few attempts I didn't do it right is correct, and the few I did right I was disappointed after they were done.
I was just saying 'Be careful"
 

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cti4sw

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Woah! That one will be GREAT for detail, and could be a BANNER find. Send a PM to Don in SJ and get the coin attributed by type if possible before you go any further on cleaning! Wow, that is one hell of a coin.

-Buck

I PM'd hogge, Don in SJ, and Iron Patch all at once. Only hogge has replied.
 

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Congrats on your finds brother I have to admit I can't even imagine having a day like that kinda jealous keep digging and keep posting: -)
 

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With my first few attempts I didn't do it right is correct, and the few I did right I was disappointed after they were done.
I was just saying 'Be careful"
After about 100 or so that I have done....I was only disappointed with 2. One was a Conn., and the other an early LC. The Conn. was so pitted it basically ruined it. It was shot anyways. Look at my avatar coin. That was a peroxided bath coin. From STACKS....." If this had been in a collection, other than a ground find.....It would stake a claim to being one of the finest Landscape Coppers known"
 

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Very very nice finds. The flowing hair is one of the most astounding coins ever minted. It always reminds me of a ghost.
 

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A BIG CONGRATS on the 1793 AWESOME COIN with nice detail. My Banner vote is in. As far as the hot peroxide bath, I have cleaned many coppers this way and most come out much better then they started. I have a few get worse, but as Hogge said they were not going to get any better and they were too far gone to begin with. Congrats again :thumbsup:

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Dang, you are on a roll. I'd be stunned to find the 1793 Flowing Hair large cent, or the 1/4 Eagle.

HH

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That's a heck of a find! Congratulations!

By the way, Don in SJ had his computer crash and he has to buy a new one. That's why you haven't heard from him.
 

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That's a heck of a find! Congratulations!

By the way, Don in SJ had his computer crash and he has to buy a new one. That's why you haven't heard from him.

Actually, I did get a PM from him this morning. I guess he got a new one, or he fixed the problem :)
 

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When you peroxide, you cant let it "eat" into the patina of the coin very far or you will get the dreaded orange spongy marks (raw clean copper basically) on the areas of the very shallowest patina. Too little peroxide is good, arguably better than none at all. But too much is just an atrocious abomination.
 

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i found cooking my coppers in olive oil removes dirt and brings out detail

That's what I do. Definitely the way to safely clean ,buts that's just my opinion
 

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I think you're doing a good job with the peroxide. I would hold off until you hear from Don in SJ. He will also have some advice about conditioning the coin.

Why is this not on the finds banner yet?
 

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cti4sw

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I think you're doing a good job with the peroxide. I would hold off until you hear from Don in SJ. He will also have some advice about conditioning the coin.

Why is this not on the finds banner yet?

Peroxide has stopped per PM'd advice from Don in SJ.

Idk, someone found the same coin earlier this year and it apparently never made it to the banner despite a number of votes either: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...93-flowing-hair-large-cent-field-legends.html

Maybe it's not bannerworthy to the mods. Who knows, I'm not worried.
 

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