Baggage Tag, 2 - LCs & an Early Wrist Watch

ANTIQUARIAN

Gold Member
Apr 24, 2010
12,841
27,385
Upper Canada 🇨🇦
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Baggage Tag, 2 - LC's & an Early Wrist Watch


I headed back to the 1860 farm site for 3hrs this morning and made some decent finds! :thumbsup:
I decided to hit the field to the west of the house and within the first 5 minutes I found the baggage tag. The CNR's main rail line between Toronto & Montreal runs directly through this property about 500' from where I found this piece. My next find was the large copper coin, which unfortunately is completely toasted! :p My next find was the pocket / wrist watch. I'm pretty sure this is a wrist watch, but the back comes off just like a pocket watch.
My next find was an unusual center-fire brass shotgun shell. Normally I'd just chuck something like this into my recycling bucket, but this one was thick and had a manufactures stamp on it that I'd never seen before!
icon_scratch.gif
Towards the end of my hunt I found the plated brass harness buckle and a 1906 Canadian LC!
icon_thumleft.gif


Here is some info I found about the the marks stamped into the back of the watch, I couldn't find any info on 'Ideal US'. As well as, some info on the shotgun casing.

‘Ideal US’ Early Wristwatch Ser. 91390 - ‘Silveroid’ Ser. 1026006

I believe ‘Silveroid’ is an alloy of copper and nickel sometimes known as nickel silver or German silver. It's more practical than silver, gold or gold-filled cases and was the best material for cases until the advent of stainless steel. Keystone Watch Case Co's Patent for the Silveroid trademark was filed on Oct 17, 1900 however it is also listed as being in use since Jan. 1, 1886.

Kynock Birmingham No. 12/ Eley London No. 10 Center fire Cap

Kynoch was a manufacturer of ammunition, later incorporated into ICI but remaining as a brand name for sporting cartridges. Scottish entrepreneur George Kynoch established Kynoch in Witton in Birmingham in 1862 when he opened a percussion cap factory in Witton. Kynoch, along with names such as Eley, became brands of subsidiaries.

Thanks very much for looking,
Dave


PS. I took the pic of a large deer from the ridge overlooking a field behind the barn.
 

Attachments

  • IMG-20131202-03478.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03478.jpg
    126.5 KB · Views: 125
  • IMG-20131202-03479.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03479.jpg
    108.1 KB · Views: 114
  • IMG-20131202-03475.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03475.jpg
    69.6 KB · Views: 125
  • IMG-20131202-03474.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03474.jpg
    120 KB · Views: 145
  • Brass Shell 001.jpg
    Brass Shell 001.jpg
    92.8 KB · Views: 127
  • IMG-20131202-03477.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03477.jpg
    97.5 KB · Views: 128
  • IMG-20131202-03484.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03484.jpg
    105 KB · Views: 120
  • IMG-20131202-03483.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03483.jpg
    114.5 KB · Views: 129
  • IMG-20131202-03481.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03481.jpg
    126.8 KB · Views: 138
  • IMG-20131202-03480.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03480.jpg
    112.5 KB · Views: 130
  • IMG-20131202-03493.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03493.jpg
    65 KB · Views: 137
  • IMG-20131202-03489.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03489.jpg
    72.4 KB · Views: 128
  • IMG-20131202-03487.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03487.jpg
    95.4 KB · Views: 119
  • IMG-20131202-03486.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03486.jpg
    122.3 KB · Views: 123
  • IMG-20131202-03485.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03485.jpg
    97.2 KB · Views: 129
  • IMG-20131202-03494.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03494.jpg
    82.4 KB · Views: 126
  • IMG-20131202-03498.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03498.jpg
    82.1 KB · Views: 123
  • IMG-20131202-03497.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03497.jpg
    80.7 KB · Views: 126
  • IMG-20131202-03491.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03491.jpg
    82.7 KB · Views: 144
  • IMG-20131202-03492.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03492.jpg
    78.1 KB · Views: 150
  • Kynoch Shell 003.jpg
    Kynoch Shell 003.jpg
    60.6 KB · Views: 120
  • Kynoch Shell 002.jpg
    Kynoch Shell 002.jpg
    71.7 KB · Views: 124
  • Kynoch Shell 001.jpg
    Kynoch Shell 001.jpg
    70.4 KB · Views: 114
  • IMG-20131202-03490.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03490.jpg
    83.7 KB · Views: 136
Last edited:
Upvote 4

ironhorse

Silver Member
Oct 13, 2009
3,729
4,738
East Dirtyville
🥇 Banner finds
2
Good to see you are still getting out, I like the old baggage tags, cool find!
Those old watches show up every now and then, I've got a couple myself, sadly they're in about the same shape as yours , still neat
 

jewelerguy

Gold Member
Jun 28, 2011
11,430
8,915
Oklahoma
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
1
Detector(s) used
White's XLT
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
I'm thinking the watch is WW1 military issue
 

Msbeepbeep

Gold Member
Jun 24, 2012
15,787
24,131
MA
Detector(s) used
M-6, pro pointer, pistol probe
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Awesome you can still hunt & dig the ground!
 

OP
OP
ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

Gold Member
Apr 24, 2010
12,841
27,385
Upper Canada 🇨🇦
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Good to see you are still getting out, I like the old baggage tags, cool find!
Those old watches show up every now and then, I've got a couple myself, sadly they're in about the same shape as yours , still neat

You know how it is living in Canada, we have to take advantage of the mild weather while we've got it eh! :laughing7: The watch was an interesting find for me as I've never found one like this. It almost looks like a pocket watch 'hybrid' or a 'crossover' type where people are transitioning from pocket to wrist watches. :dontknow:
Best of luck to you my friend!
Dave



I'm thinking the watch is WW1 military issue

Thanks very much for this JG! :thumbsup:
I haven't been able to find a similar example online. :icon_scratch:
Dave



Awesome you can still hunt & dig the ground!

Thanks for your post BB!
The ground here is very muddy and frozen in spots, but it's still digable! :thumbsup:
Happy Hunting to you,
Dave
 

Steve in PA

Gold Member
Jul 5, 2010
9,581
14,119
Pittsburgh, PA
🥇 Banner finds
4
Detector(s) used
Fisher F75, XP Deus, Equinox 600, Fisher 1270
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Nice baggage tag. Those are highly collectable. To bad I've only ever found one!
 

OP
OP
ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

Gold Member
Apr 24, 2010
12,841
27,385
Upper Canada 🇨🇦
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Nice baggage tag. Those are highly collectable. To bad I've only ever found one!
Thanks very much Steve! :occasion14:
I was a bit disappointed it wasn't railroad associated . . . who knows, maybe it's stagecoach related? :dontknow:
Dave
 

Dirt.Hound

Jr. Member
Mar 5, 2013
71
29
Detector(s) used
Minelab X-Terra 705
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Some nice finds there, man! Too bad about the toasted copper :( I know exactly how you feel about that... found a few lately that I absolutely can not ID.
 

OP
OP
ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

Gold Member
Apr 24, 2010
12,841
27,385
Upper Canada 🇨🇦
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Some nice finds there, man! Too bad about the toasted copper :( I know exactly how you feel about that... found a few lately that I absolutely can not ID.

It definitely is frustrating DH! Most of the time old coins I have some type of 'surface cancer' going on, but usually I can make some details out!
icon_scratch.gif
Unfortunately this coin is worn almost completely smooth, so it must've been in the ground being pushed around by the plow for a long time! I've now had it in the tumbler for 2hrs, I've just checked it and I'm pretty sure it's an 1837 Lower Canada Half Penny. Here's what it used to look like! :thumbsup:

Thanks for your post and best of luck to you,
Dave
 

Attachments

  • 1837 Half Penny.JPG
    1837 Half Penny.JPG
    21 KB · Views: 93

Dirt.Hound

Jr. Member
Mar 5, 2013
71
29
Detector(s) used
Minelab X-Terra 705
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
ah yes... still looking for one of those :) I've found a couple Upper Canada half pennies, though. Love the pre-confederation tokens :)
 

OP
OP
ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

Gold Member
Apr 24, 2010
12,841
27,385
Upper Canada 🇨🇦
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
ah yes... still looking for one of those :) I've found a couple Upper Canada half pennies, though. Love the per-confederation tokens :)

I love finding Canadian Pre-confederation coins too, but they're rare as hens teeth! :laughing7:
Although I get just as excited when I find any LC!

HH, Dave
 

Dirt.Hound

Jr. Member
Mar 5, 2013
71
29
Detector(s) used
Minelab X-Terra 705
Primary Interest:
Metal Detecting
Yup... love the LCs too :) I'm at 23 (Canadian LCs that is) for the year... and I get just as excited each time :)
 

OP
OP
ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

Gold Member
Apr 24, 2010
12,841
27,385
Upper Canada 🇨🇦
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Yup... love the LCs too :) I'm at 23 (Canadian LCs that is) for the year... and I get just as excited each time :)

23 LC's on the year isn't too shabby my friend, :hello2: I've only found 15 this year! For the year I'm at 6 pre-confederation tokens and 10 silvers. I mostly hunt farms and old homesteads, so as you know, coins are a lot harder to find at these locals. :dontknow:


Awesome find! Congrats!

Thanks very much Eric, best of luck to you! :thumbsup:
Dave
 

OP
OP
ANTIQUARIAN

ANTIQUARIAN

Gold Member
Apr 24, 2010
12,841
27,385
Upper Canada 🇨🇦
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, Lesche Piranha 35 Shovel & 'Garrett Carrot'
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
I just found a picture online of what the watch use to look like!
smiley-happy088.gif
 

Attachments

  • IMG-20131202-03494-crop.jpg
    IMG-20131202-03494-crop.jpg
    21.5 KB · Views: 295
  • Early CYLINDRE '1900 Antique Swiss Silver Wrist Watch.jpg
    Early CYLINDRE '1900 Antique Swiss Silver Wrist Watch.jpg
    12.4 KB · Views: 267

CASPER-2

Gold Member
Jan 3, 2012
17,158
19,959
NEW ENGLAND
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
6
Detector(s) used
WHITE'S XLT, PI PRO, GARRETT 2500, 3- FISHER CZ21s, JW FISHER 8X
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting

pl8man

Silver Member
Mar 18, 2009
4,202
4,640
San Jose , California
🥇 Banner finds
2
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
2
Detector(s) used
Whites MXT PRO with Sunray probe, M6 with a Super 12 coil & a Whites Quantum II
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Very cool finds Dave !
Glen
 

CRUSADER

Gold Member
May 25, 2007
40,859
45,435
ENGLAND
🥇 Banner finds
27
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
1
Detector(s) used
XP Deus II v0.6 with 11" Coil
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
I like the Tag - early 1900s?
 

detroitdigger

Bronze Member
Sep 26, 2012
1,606
338
Detector(s) used
Garrett gtax 1000,Garrett ace 250, Technetics delta
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Cool finds, I'm hoping to get out today, but it's pretty cold here Detroit! I love fin dining the Canadian large cents. I find them every now and then, HH. Detroitdigger.
 

Top Member Reactions

Users who are viewing this thread

Latest Discussions

Top