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    Waist Belt Buckle ID Help

    My hunting partner, Buck, got us on the site of an old building from ca. 1830 that had been torn down. I found this buckle behind where the building stood. There were known Confederate and Union troops that camped in this area at the end of the CW.

    I have looked at several books on buckles and so far come up with nothing. Closest I come is in "Plates and Buckles of the American Military 1795-1874" by Sydney C. Kerkisis. On pages 10, 11, 12 there are buckles show of similar design but the belt loops are not the same. And those buckles are Infantry, Artillery and generic service.

    This buckle is obviously Navy oriented. There are buttons from the War of 1812 era that have a similar eagle with oval shield containing an anchor.

    It is quite surprising how much of the original gold plating remained on the buckle. The only reason the eagle lost his is because when I dug it I took a toothbrush to it in order to find out what the design was. I know I shouldn't have but around here our ground is not usually this friendly to plating. Most places is good old red clay but this particular location had dark sandy soil for some reason.

    At any rate if anyone has seen this style buckle and is willing to fill me in I sure would appreciate it.
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    Pretty neat. Someone will jump in shortly with an ID - thanks for sharing...
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    The collectors' reference-book "American Military Belt Plates" by O'Donnell & Campbell shows your buckle's main disc as Plate #976, on page 580, listing it as an 1803 US Navy Officer small sword or dirk belt plate.

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    Thanks for the ID Cannonball. I just ordered a copy of the book. Looking forward to seeing what the other half of it looks like. Buck and I have spent aprox 30 hours between us trying to find the still missing part. No luck thus far.

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    That is an Awesome find, I will even Vote Banner.

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    I say banner too

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    Thanks to all for the good words.

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    Banner find nice buckle

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    Banner. Congratulations!
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    that is an awesome piece of history. i hope you do find the other half. and this is deffinantly worthy of the banner.

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    I am very appreciative for the banner nominations. Thanks to all.

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    I've nominated your buckle find for the Banner. Here is what I wrote in my nomination message: This 1803 US Navy small sword or dirk (dagger) belt-buckle is so extraordinarily rare that the author of the book "American Military Belt Plates" was only able to locate one piece of its three components, with a very-badly-worn-down emblem, to photograph for inclusion in the book. The TreasureNet finder's specimen is two of the three parts, AND the emblem on it is clear-&-sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCannonballGuy View Post
    I've nominated your buckle find for the Banner. Here is what I wrote in my nomination message: This 1803 US Navy small sword or dirk (dagger) belt-buckle is so extraordinarily rare that the author of the book "American Military Belt Plates" was only able to locate one piece of its three components, with a very-badly-worn-down emblem, to photograph for inclusion in the book. The TreasureNet finder's specimen is two of the three parts, AND the emblem on it is clear-&-sharp.
    Thats what we can call rare and worth to be on the Banner!

    @Curious The George, great find! Congrats! My vote is in too.

 

 
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