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    Very Scarce MODEL 1839 MEXICAN WAR Officers Shoulder Belt Plate (Variant)

    Hey Guys, this plate was quite a surprise!...I was recently digging an old Dragoons/Cavalry camp that served as an important post during the 1850's and the Civil War...I had a few Eagles in the pouch including some Eagle "D"s but hadn't dug anything a little while. I was going along and had just dug 3 crushed cans in the previous few minutes when I got another signal hitting exactly the same. I popped a plug out alittle quick and haphazardly expecting it to be another crushed flat can but when I popped the plug over something was thrown into the air and was flipping and then landed on the toe of my boot....when I looked down I had to take a double take as I saw 3 perfectly spaced hooks on the back of a rectangular plate....and when I turned it over I was quite surprised with an rare and beautiful plate....this plate is shown in photos as it was dug and is fully gilted though I have refrained from cleaning it other than dry brushing it to remove dirt and buildup. I will keep it in this condition with the patina out of preference as it has a pretty dusty red patina to it. If I were to clean it though, it has all the gilt underneath as well as the German Silvered Wreath and U.S. letters. Definitely one of the best surprise signals in quite sometime and a plate every bit as rare to dig and even more so in many cases, as a Confederate Plate. We see Confederate plates dug quite frequently but you don't see these plates dug very often....definitely one of the finest ive dug and certainly so for a U.S. plate.


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    A cheap one until I can decide on a very good brand-name one to buy.
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    Whoa! That is Sweeeeeet! Wait a second... this buckle is fashioned to be worn straight up rather than sideways like a belt buckle. Is this some type of shoulder buckle? I can't see anyone wearing a belt buckle with his initials hardly readable because they were on the side. Sorry, I do not have much knowledge of Civil War uniform set-up so I do not know where this type of buckle would be on the body....
    I like it and am voting Banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichiganMan View Post
    Whoa! That is Sweeeeeet! Wait a second... this buckle is fashioned to be worn straight up rather than sideways like a belt buckle. Is this some type of shoulder buckle? I can't see anyone wearing a belt buckle with his initials hardly readable because they were on the side. Sorry, I do not have much knowledge of Civil War uniform set-up so I do not know where this type of buckle would be on the body....
    I like it and am voting Banner.
    Thanks MichiganMan, and Indeed, it was for the shoulder belt, its an officers Shoulder Beltplate. I've included some information on it in the jpeg below the beltbuckle photos.
    Last edited by {Sentinel}; Oct 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM.



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    What a surprise and in excellent condition. You preserved it well and once again you have proved you know how to save history. What a centerpiece. You sir my count my nomination. Congratulations.
    HH
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    Congrats on the great looking plate Sentinel, you're so right in leaving it just the it sits as it looks perfect. It definitely deserves the placement up on the Banner, so you have my vote.

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    Beautiful, great save.
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    Nice digs.

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    Wow super rare plate. And the condition is awesome. Definitely a banner find. Congrats.

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    Very nice,now go find another! If you do go buy a lottery ticket. Banner for sure

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    Stunning belt plate there! Banner material for sure hope to see it up there soon =)

  11. #11
    One beautiful relic and piece of history!

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tnmountains View Post
    What a surprise and in excellent condition. You preserved it well and once again you have proved you know how to save history. What a centerpiece. You sir my count my nomination. Congratulations.
    HH
    Tnmountains, I certainly appreciate the kind words.
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    wow incredible piece of history sure deserves a place up on banner. my vote is going in
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    DIG, RECOVER, PRESERVE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    Congrats on the great looking plate Sentinel, you're so right in leaving it just the it sits as it looks perfect. It definitely deserves the placement up on the Banner, so you have my vote.
    Thanks pepper, you know, when you clean something like this it sterilizes it and takes away all traces of its unique character turning it into something that looks just like any non-dug plate... which is unfortunate. Although most of us; you, me and many other relic and coin hunters recognize the historical significance of a dug artifact and see the merits, historical value and otherwise, of leaving a relic in dug condition.


    Quote Originally Posted by 70monte68 View Post
    Beautiful, great save.
    Thanks Monte



    Quote Originally Posted by danimal03 View Post
    Wow super rare plate. And the condition is awesome. Definitely a banner find. Congrats.
    Thanks my friend


    Quote Originally Posted by Zebco View Post
    Very nice,now go find another! If you do go buy a lottery ticket. Banner for sure
    Lol, thanks Zebco, I'll give it a shot

    Quote Originally Posted by CoinandRelicMan View Post
    Stunning belt plate there! Banner material for sure hope to see it up there soon =)
    Thanks CoinandRelicMan

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ View Post
    One beautiful relic and piece of history!Don
    Thanks Don, it's nice to see you and other good folks still posting on TNet.
    Last edited by {Sentinel}; Oct 14, 2014 at 11:27 AM.



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    An excellent find! What a beautiful plate and a nice surprise after thinking it was just going to be another pop can. I'll add my vote. Can't wait to see it on the banner!

 

 
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