Second trip to promising sight, ID help ???

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Got another hour in today at the new sight and made some recognizable finds and some not so. Please help out with an ID with any of the mysteries if you can.

Ok so this looks like a brass rivet but has an Anchor with rope on it. this is the same sight I found the 1840's federal navy button so maybe something navy??
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Nice Axe head. Any idea of its age??
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2 Spoon or fork handles
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Poor mans wedding band?
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Harmonica reed, Some old bottle glass, buckle, small wedge or chisel?
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Feel like I've seen these before but not sure what they are?? Seam to be lead.
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Don't know what this is but it has been modified a long time ago. Top of lid looks like it says "licensed under Norris Patents Sep 1878"
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And lastly this
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Thanks so much for looking. HH! :hello:
 

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Hi, the modified item looks like the top to a smudge pot, early traffic alert system.....Joe McDonough
 

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Hi, the modified item looks like the top to a smudge pot, early traffic alert system.....Joe McDonough

Smudge pots weren't invented till after 1913 and the patent date on this lid is 1878 tho.
 

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Well I don't know, but the rivet, bolt, spike ? with the anchor on it is very cool.

Thinking...it would be strange (waste of time ?) to but such decoration on an everyday "rivet". Again I don't know, and that is what makes it quite interesting indeed.
 

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I guess the term MODIFIED might be in play here, thanks....Joe McDonough
 

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That place has some potential, I hope you find more great finds next time you go there. The long lead thing may be an ingot to melt into bullets? Just a guess.

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That place has some potential, I hope you find more great finds next time you go there. The long lead thing may be an ingot to melt into bullets? Just a guess.

Coinman123,

I had the same purpose in mind :icon_thumright:
 

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Oh no not another human rear end turkey basester like deedubs listed on what is it forum. The last two pics look so close.If it is you had to be real man to wrangle that thing but on a serious note nice finds.
 

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I believe that a rivet like that was posted on another forum & was ID'ed as " Anchor Brand" rivets. Nothing to do with the Navy.........
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Regarding the axe...

Looks like its a Civil War era "felling axe" check this site The Liberty Rifles and look under "Felling Axes" section and look at the axe head examples on middle and bottom rows. Looks similar to yours and the history behind changes in axe head shapes and utilization when affixed to wood is explained in detail.

Hope this helps.
 

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I believe that a rivet like that was posted on another forum & was ID'ed as " Anchor Brand" rivets. Nothing to do with the Navy.........
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Another forum just ID'ed this to be a rivet that has come from the British Navy about circa 1845... I guess its still a mystery then :dontknow:
 

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Regarding the axe...

Looks like its a Civil War era "felling axe" check this site The Liberty Rifles and look under "Felling Axes" section and look at the axe head examples on middle and bottom rows. Looks similar to yours and the history behind changes in axe head shapes and utilization when affixed to wood is explained in detail.

Hope this helps.

The one right in the center seems to match mine perfectly, Thanks hbeaton
 

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Another forum just ID'ed this to be a rivet that has come from the British Navy about circa 1845... I guess its still a mystery then :dontknow:

That sounds like a WAG to me. The anchor has been used in branding for years (on many different products), it has lots of meanings as a symbol & one is 'hold fast' which is perfect for a brand of rivet. Nothing to do with the Royal Navy, unless they have evidence for their referrence? (pretty sure the Govt didn't use that for supplies to the Royal Navy)
 

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That sounds like a WAG to me. The anchor has been used in branding for years (on many different products), it has lots of meanings as a symbol & one is 'hold fast' which is perfect for a brand of rivet. Nothing to do with the Royal Navy, unless they have evidence for their referrence? (pretty sure the Govt didn't use that for supplies to the Royal Navy)

Is there anyone that can produce a picture of these "Anchor brand rivets"? I'm having trouble finding them for some reason.
 

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Is there anyone that can produce a picture of these "Anchor brand rivets"? I'm having trouble finding them for some reason.

Not me, we have to remember not everything can be found by google. I have had no reason to research this type of find in detail. I'm just giving my opinion on it being Civilian use & not Military. Although as it went on horse tack, most likely, no reason a cavalry man couldn't have used it.
 

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