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    Colonial Era Sterling Salt Shaker

    Found this over the weekend on a site of an old farmhouse. Thought it was modern but today I cleaned it and saw the hallmarks on the bottom. There are three markings: a crowned lion's head, a lion, and a "C". I think this might be over 200-year old English sterling silver. Maybe it's from the age of pirates!

    Edit: Research indicates that this is indeed an early colonial artifact. It was made in London in 1738 and was probably exported to the 13 colonies shortly thereafter. Despite my initial assumptions of it being a salt shaker I'm now convinced it is a "pepper pot". This is the oldest and most unique artifact I have found to date. Thanks to all who helped in identifying and dating this rare and interesting piece. Last find of 2014. Happy New Year!

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    Here is the bottom showing the very old looking hallmarks:
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    Last edited by UnderMiner; Dec 31, 2014 at 03:35 PM.
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    neat find. I can't read the hallmarks but does look like it has some age. You don't see those found very often. I would either put it in my display case or use it. congrats!
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    Wow that's a beauty! I love how you put the age of items into perspective. I've always remember your reply to my tree coin. "From the age of the witch trials" It really hit home with me!
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    Super cool
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    London 1778?

    PS. 1778 seems too early because the Lion has no Crown, that I can see, I will keep looking.
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    http://www.silvercollection.it/tavola315bis.jpg

    1738 London but it needs a crown on the Lion, which is kind of damaged. If it is this date, needs confirmation, I'm voting!
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    That is a great piece indeed. Very nice that it has remained in such nice condition for all these years. I generally see them all dinged up or even crushed. Hope it turns out to be early 18th century.
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    It has a crown, it's faint but I can see it, I'll try to take a better picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderMiner View Post
    It has a crown, it's faint but I can see it, I'll try to take a better picture.
    Well thats great news as the Date Letter Stamp is the best match of all the London asseyers marks. I have no knowledge of 18th C shakers, so I don't know if it fits the profile. I would think, if this date is confirmed, its a real valuable colllectable! CONGRATS
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    Here is better pic of the marks:
    I think this is indeed from 1738!

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    I think that the C is more shield shape instead of a sq. Sheffield 1846

    Take a look at the Date Letter Chart on the link
    Sheffield Hallmarks 1 - Encyclopedia of Silver Marks, Hallmarks & Makers' Marks

    Great find!

    Then again it might very well be the early crown which puts it 1700's!
    Last edited by pepperj; Dec 30, 2014 at 04:34 PM.
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    Yes, it's a shield not a square so it can't be from 1846 since the 1846 is a square, so far the only "C shield" mark I can find is from 1738. Courtesy of CRUSADER : http://www.silvercollection.it/tavola315bis.jpg
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    It would really be nice if you could pinpoint the date and manufacturer. Either way, I think it's a great piece and I'm jealous!
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    beautiful find, very nice, congrats.. sweet find in many ways
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderMiner View Post
    Yes, it's a shield not a square so it can't be from 1846 since the 1846 is a square, so far the only "C shield" mark I can find is from 1738. Courtesy of CRUSADER : http://www.silvercollection.it/tavola315bis.jpg
    This shows the 1738 as well
    London Hallmarks 1 - Encyclopedia of Silver Marks, Hallmarks & Makers' Marks
    Last edited by pepperj; Dec 30, 2014 at 04:46 PM.
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