crystal indian artifact?

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This crystal/stone was found during land excavating on Long Island in NY.
It is carved with facets. One side has a flower carved into it and on the opposite side is a flat facet to view it through.
Anyone see anything like it?
 

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Welcome to the forum! A very interesting find!
 

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Looks like a raw diamond to me. Touch your tongue to it and see if it has a grabby sensation. Nice find! Cheers!!
 

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Looks like a raw diamond to me. Touch your tongue to it and see if it has a grabby sensation. Nice find! Cheers!!
I don't know what raw diamonds look like but that would be an amazon find if it were. Good luck
 

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Glass test. Find a scrap of glass or mirror. Will it scratch it?
How about something for scale? Dime, penny, or quarter.
 

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Please post a better view of what you say is a carved flower.
 

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"Herkimer Diamond" ?
 

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Thank you for your responses. Based on your advise I think it is glass. I tried to take a better picture of the flower. In person it definitely looks purposely placed. Can't find much information online about it possibly being Indian. I know the area it was found on Long Island was inhabited by American Indians long long ago then turned into suburbia.
 

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Very interesting find ! I have a hard time think its glass because of how chunky , thick , three dimensional , and crystalline it appears
to be . I also don't believe it's a diamond because of the size . I do think the earlier guess of "Herkimer Diamond" is a good guess
since this was found in New York . I don't see an association with Native Americana here .
 

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i do not think you can see thru a diamond
 

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Here is a pic of a Herkimer Diamond along with yours to compare. download.jpg image.jpg I would get a jeweler to check it out for sure.
 

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It still looks like a raw diamond to me, and I've found a few. They are not always in the textbook shape, but can come in weird shapes that are called Oddities. Might be glass but I can't see any concoidal fracturing anywhere which occurs with glass, whereas a diamond will fracture in straight lines which are called cleavage. The flower you are seeing might be an inclusion of some sort. It might cost you, but you might want to think about having a gemologist check it out, that is what I did with any suspect stones that I found when panning gold in a known diamond bearing area. A lot of them were quartz, but a few diamonds were present too. Quartz will also cut glass, so that's not the best test. The gemologist I used would put the stones into a clear liquid, and if they were quartz you couldn't see them, but diamonds stood out. Anyways a very interesting find. Cheers!!
 

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I do believe it is rock crystal, or Quartz crystal, but I don't think indian artefact as I see no evidence of chipping / working the piece.

here's a couple I found, the one on the right has been worked into a small scrapper, maybe hard to see from the picture, but the rounded edge has been chipped into a sharp edge.

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I think any transparent "gems" are a good find, even if not diamonds.
 

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neat! I would say it's not indian. very neat to find a piece like that.
 

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Man, you can't help but learn stuff here!!

I had no idea quartz would cut glass!
Thanks
 

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