Another trip to the colonial DEEP...William III 1696 Halfpenny!! and an ID needed

HomeGuardDan

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My plans changed at the last minute and rather than a 2 hour drive to check out some new spots, I ended up with about 4 hours to go back to my latest honey hole.

I spent 50% of the time trying to recover that large deep signal I left last time (where the pipe bowl was eyeballed) and still could not get to it. This is going to either be a BIG brass/copper/pewter items or a big piece of flat iron...I am hoping to at least see what it is at some point. I did manage to eyeball another broken bottle and recovered the base...I think it is a matter of time before a whole one comes out. Visibility is horrible in the hole as I could not see 3" in front of my mask.

After breaking the coin streak last trip, I started a new one today with a worn, but there, 1696 (or 98) William III Halfpenny (TERTIVS). This is the third William III coin from this spot and it did make me a happy camper.

I ended up with a few more musket balls and found a hole FULL of small shot (probably over a thousand there) if I decide to get bored and recover them all it could make for an interesting display. I did manage a few more buttons (one of the rarer ones from this site, an 1800s variety), a cast 1600s nipple button and a standard flat.

I managed a broken piece to an early buckle and then the WHAT IS IT brass item. It is an odd shape and something I feel like I have seen before. It is obviously broken on one end, but the other is intentional (as it tapers down to a point) any help is appreciated (Cru???)

Other than that, I managed some modern sinkers, a grouping of early nails, and some misc lead sheathing and melted blobs.

HH

Dan
 

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Ahab8

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Nice to see a 1600s copper that you can Id bud. You kill it in the water man
 

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Yup looks like water finds…similar to some of the finds I got today…Congrats
 

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Super nice finds, congrats! I may be wrong but the Brass piece appears to be a broken off piece from the rear of the trigger guard of an early muzzleloading (black powder) pistol that was more than likely locally Blacksmith/Gunsmith made.


Frank
 

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Super nice finds, congrats! I may be wrong but the Brass piece appears to be a broken off piece from the rear of the trigger guard of an early muzzleloading (black powder) pistol that was more than likely locally Blacksmith/Gunsmith made.


Frank
That is a good guess...it just seemed a little narrow to me...though that thought did cross my mind. Could be...keep them coming.
 

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HGD dang you cleaned up I see . You got the hole works and then some ,nice, vanzutphen
 

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Good assortment of finds Dan, that big object seems to want you for the summer.
 

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I've been searching for an hour now for the brass piece you posted. I don't think it's a gun part at all, in spite of the fact that the last photo has a frizzen look to it. (Are all three photos the same item? The last one looks different...)

Any rate, I'll keep searching.

Congrats on the fantastic water finds. Great to see a WMIII recovered underwater!

-Buck
 

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HomeGuardDan

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I've been searching for an hour now for the brass piece you posted. I don't think it's a gun part at all, in spite of the fact that the last photo has a frizzen look to it. (Are all three photos the same item? The last one looks different...)

Any rate, I'll keep searching.

Congrats on the fantastic water finds. Great to see a WMIII recovered underwater!

-Buck

Buck,

thanks man, yes all three are the same item (last one I took for a different angle in failing light). I know I have seen this before and just cant put a finger on it. Been going through all my colonial books as well. Most everything from this site has been late 1600s-1750s. This is the third William III from this site now
 

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Beautiful William! He doesn't show his face too often. Excellent hunt, man.
 

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Nope, sorry not a clue....
 

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good going on the 1600s copper, and all that lead!, the other items are pretty cool as well, love the buttons!!
 

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Amazing! Could the mystery piece be part of a spur?
 

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Amazing! Could the mystery piece be part of a spur?

When I dug it, I immediately thought spur as I know some of the period do not utilize a rowl, then I looked at the lack of symmetry as one end if tapered and the other sqaured and broken...will post a picture of what I think it might look like complete.

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Perhaps this will help visulize
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Sort of looks like a part of a stirrup, but what really throws this theory is the worn points instead of being broken and if it had been it might of came from a cage style stirrup. Now I'm wondering if it's some part of a buckle frame?
 

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Sort of looks like a part of a stirrup, but what really throws this theory is the worn points instead of being broken and if it had been it might of came from a cage style stirrup. Now I'm wondering if it's some part of a buckle frame?

Yes, has me perplexed too...it is too small for a stirrup the opening would only be about 2.5-3" at most
 

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