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    FIND OF A LIFETIME- South Carolina CONTINENTAL Dragoons

    Hey guys,

    While this hobby certainly has its highs and lows, perseverance always seems to pay off. A little over a year ago I got my first Safari and like most my initial finds began modest (lots of iron nails and aluminum pull tabs). Then after months swinging the machine something amazing happened- I found my first British pewter buttons from the Revolutionary War. Matching 3rd and 19th Regiment of Foot pewter buttons. My research proved that the British had landed at the site and with Gheenoe's recent discovery of a 23rd Regiment of Foot button, we can confirm occupation by the 3rd, 19th, and 23rd...tasked with capturing Francis Marion, the famed "Swamp Fox". While the British were unsuccessful in Marion's capture, the British ambush did result in the capture of 67 Continentals.

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    From this point forward I was hooked on detecting and the history of the Revolutionary War. Tons of research later, multiple remote explorations with Gheenoe78, and a new CTX 3030 proved to make the difference today. My find of a lifetime- an ultra-rare SOUTH CAROLINA DRAGOONS pewter coat button! Given that the site was exclusively occupied by the British, it is possible that this button may have belonged to a continental POW! I also managed an unknown pewter cuff that I suspect to be British. Props to Vino for some excellent programming advice and Gheenoe78 for the ID. I will certainly remember this day for a long while!

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    Thanks for looking

    UPDATE: Given the provenance of the site as a British staging camp, Troiani's updated classification as a loyalist button, and Robert Silverstein's research on the SC light mounted cavalry, it appears the button MAY in fact be attributed to the SC Loyalists. In the interest of full disclosure, significant mystery still surrounds this particular pewter, and ones like it, however I have yet to see another example with a flag aft of the rider. Still my favorite and most rare find to date! Here's a link to learn more from Silverstein's research http://www.georgewashingtoninaugural...rown-loyalist/ For Don Troiani's take, reference the "Loyalist" section in his book Insignia of Independence.
    Last edited by VMI Digger; Jul 07, 2015 at 11:02 PM. Reason: Updated identification notes
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    Great find!!! I wish we had stuff that old here in South Arkansas...d2
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    That is incredible!!! A banner find if I ever saw one. In awsome shape for pewter
    Big Congrats Jon, hard work has payed of..
    Now get back out there and find some more really rare Buttons.
    George
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    This one from Troiani's book looks more like it to me?
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    My BANNER vote is going in! Congrats buddy, thats an amazing find.
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    That's awesome!!! Research and good finds go hand in hand. Looks like you have been doing yours. We have found stuff in places we would have never considered without research. Congrats!!! Banner for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2 View Post
    Great find!!! I wish we had stuff that old here in South Arkansas...d2
    Thanks D2 definitely one of my rarest finds to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gheenoe78 View Post
    This one from Troiani's book looks more like it to me?
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    My BANNER vote is going in! Congrats buddy, thats an amazing find.
    Thanks Gheenoe78 for the ID that's the one!
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    Sorry to say that ID is no longer the case for the newer book, which does not have it in the SC section, but under the Loyalist one. And I am fairly certain that is also incorrect as the vast majority of these buttons are found in the UK, so it is a British button of unknown origin. It is interesting that some of them did make it to America, but I have no idea why, and neither does anyone else and that is why the ID has changed, and as I said I don't think is right yet.
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    This is probably also a more likely explanation as to why it was unearthed in a British camp. Still a very nice find though!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch View Post
    Sorry to say that ID is no longer the case for the newer book, which does not have it in the SC section, but under the Loyalist one. And I am fairly certain that is also incorrect as the vast majority of these buttons are found in the UK, so it is a British button of unknown origin. It is interesting that some of them did make it to America, but I have no idea why, and neither does anyone else and that is why the ID has changed, and as I said I don't think is right yet.

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    Never even heard of that button much less seen one dug. And she's in incredible shape for pewter. Best of all is the story, and I wouldn't be surprised if your POW theory is correct. Banner!!
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    MY BOOK HAS SOLD OUT OF ALL 1200+ COPIES IN LESS THAN 4 MONTHS. NO 2ND PRINTING IS ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME. THANKS TO ALL WHO MADE THIS PROJECT A SUCCESS.


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    Cool button, but apparently not fully attributed yet as per Troiani & Kochan's latest book. Big letdown, I'm sure, but still a nice period button.

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    Very Very Nice.

    Congratulations.

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    Congrats! finding a good pewter button is rare, and that is one nice pewter button. Good research too, we'll have to see how it turns out, but it still sounds very interesting. WTG!

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    No matter who made it or where it came from......the history and man that wore that is enough for any great conservation piece!!!
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    We might not be able to take it with us; but at least we can enjoy it after finding it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    Cool button, but apparently not fully attributed yet as per Troiani & Kochan's latest book. Big letdown, I'm sure, but still a nice period button.
    Quite the contrary, it's an amazing pewter button and the provenance is in the site. I will concede it may be a loyalist/British military button but certainly Rev War and a rare button at that.
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