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This morning Cru'Dad & I had a quick dicussion about where to go. We had tried all our hit list of available fields last week (over 20) & it was time to switch off the search mode (for now).
I said lets go to the Roman Site No.2 but Cru'Dad wanted to return to where he had the Celtic Gold. I agreed that was the best idea, but we agreed after doing the small patch we had missed will we move on to my suggestion.
Both of us had no idea it would produce so many coins, so we stayed there gridding for 5 hours (10 man hours).

34 Roman Bronze Coins (Our best 1 day total this year)
1 Roman Silver - Billon Antoninianus of TACITUS
Lots of Roman Pot Shards
Lots of Bronze Metal Working pieces
3 Roman Fibula - 1st C AD
Roman Iron Hobnail
Roman Bracelet Frag
My best Iron Age (Celtic) 1st C BC - 1st C AD - La Tene Type III Brooch - Stunning Aqua Patina!
Star Find - EXTREMELY RARE - Half of a Roman Lead Dolphin Buckle from the 4th C AD. This trial or test piece according to my expert contact is the first known example recorded in Britain. He has heard of some in mainland Europe but none here. I also checked the databases & I can't find any. This is an important find because as long as we assume this test piece was made at this metal working site, then we then have a manfacturing site for this type of Buckle. That is what I call changing History, as we know it.
 

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ARC

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Wow.. where are the coins ?
Didn't happen ... yet. :P
 

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Wow.. where are the coins ?
Didn't happen ... yet. :P

It takes Cru'Dad about 1.5 hours to record all there details on the database. Weight, Longest Diameter, Shortest Diameter, Thickness, Amount of Wear, Denomination, Visible Letters, Head Type, Reverse Type, Die Axis, etc....
 

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That's incredible when you can help to rewrite history, and it looks like that's what you've done. And I see that in addition to all that metal working debris that you found a substantial number of early pottery shards. Maybe that will lead to more exciting discoveries. Great job guys!!
 

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Wow.. where are the coins ?
Didn't happen ... yet. :P

Forgot, he has to plot them all on a map as well with the GPS co-ords...
 

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That's incredible when you can help to rewrite history, and it looks like that's what you've done. And I see that in addition to all that metal working debris that you found a substantial number of early pottery shards. Maybe that will lead to more exciting discoveries. Great job guys!!

Metal Working Sites are rare & this one was unknown until we put it on the map.
 

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It takes Cru'Dad about 1.5 hours to record all there details on the database. Weight, Longest Diameter, Shortest Diameter, Thickness, Amount of Wear, Denomination, Visible Letters, Head Type, Reverse Type, Die Axis, etc....

Work that will help future Peoples , with their historical research. Very Cool indeed.
 

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Work that will help future Peoples , with their historical research. Very Cool indeed.

Yeap, working arm in arm with the British Museum.
 

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I love the way you guys do things. Its just not about the money, but the history.
Cru, you guys go above and beyond.
Congrats George
 

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Metal Working Sites are rare & this one was unknown until we put it on the map.

Hopefully Your & Dad's Hard Work will be Appreciated in the future.
Heck I appreciate it & would 1.000 X More If I were Local.
Thx
Davers
 

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I love the way you guys do things. Its just not about the money, but the history.
Cru, you guys go above and beyond.
Congrats George

Yes, we make a good team, even with my patience I'm not sure I could do the 8000+ records for bronze roman coins. (thats forgetting all the other items & coins)
 

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Hopefully Your & Dad's Hard Work will be Appreciated in the future.
Heck I appreciate it & would 1.000 X More If I were Local.
Thx
Davers


The locals don't known yet.:thumbsup:

Maybe when we are done in 10 years time.
 

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It must be really nice to have a bad off your game day, then come back hitting home runs. Your brooch is one stunning find a really great showcase piece. The lead Dolphin is an amazing find Cru, congrats on the first and history changer.
 

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UPDATE from the expert:

"Well I do know of a small number of British dolphin/horsehead buckles from the late Roman period found in an unfinished state which might suggest they were being manufactured near those locations (one in Norfolk, for instance, one near Cirencester and one on the Isle of Wight). Down in Kent also, a metalworking site has been found which seems to have been turning out (non-zoomorphic) buckles in the late Roman period.

What's interesting about your example, of course, is that it's a bird buckle, with that little bird adorning the loop. I have associated the bird type with the civitas/tribal area of the Corieltavi. Plotting tribal boundaries in Iron Age/Roman Britain isn't easy, and essentially one of the main approaches is looking at coin finds. I've just been looking at Corieltavi coin finds on the mapping facility on finds.org.uk and your example is from near the probable edges of Corieltavi territory, so that maybe seems about right, particularly since travelling metalworkers might have been making them."
 

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CRUSADER , LIKE THEY SAY WHEN YOU ARE GOOD YOURE GOOD.
 

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Roman coin pics added to top.
 

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Funny how it works..you think you have a place pretty much cleaned up and there seems to be nice little pocket like that…did that a few times and have some sites that I want to hit again for reasons like that…Congrats
 

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