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    Jefferson Detwiler

    Nov 2013
    MA
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    AMAZINGLY rare variety 1652 Oak Tree Threepence - Find of a lifetime!!!

    Wow. I've been preparing to write this since I found the coin, but I couldn't even concentrate enough to get my thoughts down, let anyone perform my professional or family duties. Let me set this up a little first though. During the course of the past few years, it has become an obsession for me to ponder the infinitesimal probability of finding of a MA tree coin on every property, park, beach, foundation or town square I drive by. When I saw Abe's incredible pine tree shilling a while back, the possibility seemed somehow more real. Here was a guy in what used to be part of Massachusetts, a guy who puts so much effort into his research and traveling to remote locations in search of old dirt, and he found one. Maybe, just maybe, I could find one too. But usually after five more hours in a field with nothing but a couple shotgun headstamps and some melted lead to show for it, the hope seemed to dim just a little more each day. You can tell this is going to be a long post, can't you...
    Then came yesterday afternoon - my second day on a new permission, a smallish field that had an original late 17th/early 18th century home nearby. I had seen it last year, but only got up the nerve to ask permission last week when I was getting very discouraged at my usual spots. I hunted three hours the first day and man, what a letdown. I lost track of how many mangled aluminum cans and pulltabs I unearthed. No shoe buckles, no harmonica reeds, no buttons, not even many square nails, and basically no hope. Then I decided to move to a different smaller field and got a toasted large cent in the path that connected the two fields. I was a little more upbeat then, but could manage nothing else but some more garbage.
    I came back yesterday though, because the large cent had stoked the fire just enough. I couldn't write this place off after one day, could I? Well, yesterday was pretty much a carbon copy of the first day. Found a bunch of modern junk, then popped what looks like a toasted KGII from a grassy slope adjacent to a stone wall on the high side of the field. Hmm.... Two coppers in 5 hours... but then two more hours of nothing. I realized what time it was and I had to go home and start making dinner for the kids, so I figured I'd swing by the spot I nabbed the copper and head from there to the car. Yup, the ol' trip to the car story! Sure enough, 20 feet into the corn stalks, I had what rang up at 69 on the Deus. Pretty much figured it was a pulltab, and I was pretty beat from two days of yardwork, but you know how you dig it all when you're on the way to the car? I took one shovelful and it was not in the hole. The pinpointer said it was in the dirt, but I couldn't find it. Then I had something round and SMALL in my palm, so I figured it was part of a beavertail. I picked it up and wiped off some dirt off one edge. The dirt was fairly hard to remove, but I thought I saw and N and an E. I thought, could it be? NO way, don't get your hopes up, so I turn it over and give it a soft, spit-laden wipe. Do I see branches? I DO! Wait, these are NOT pine tree branches... What the heck do the other branches on the MA silver coins look like? I couldn't remember because I thought if I ever found a tree coin, it would be the most common variety of pine tree. By this point I'm shaking, I'm down on one knee, resting the coin on my thigh, trying not to die of excitement. I let out a couple loud "YES! I finally did it!" yells, then got back to absorbing the enormity of the moment. I had to go grocery shopping, do all the dishes and that kind of stuff, so I had to wait until tonight to make sure I had my thoughts together. Here's the proof! Sorry the pics are screenshots - hard to remove GPS info on my laptop...
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    Now comes the BEST part - I got home with the coin and tried to figure out what exactly I had found, but I couldn't find any examples anywhere on any website. I thought that might be good, that it might be rare or super rare, but maybe that was my imagination running away with me again. Then my wife sends me to the grocery story so the kids will have something to eat at school. So there I am, last night in the cereal aisle at Stop and Shop, texting Abe pictures of my coin and asking if he can help with an ID and variety. Like the amazing guy he is, he says he will look it up today for me. I never expected what he would text me though. He said he found it in his book, that it is an NOE 26, 4-A.2 Oak Tree, and there are likely BETWEEN 5-8 OF THESE KNOWN!!! Are you kidding me!!!
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ID:	1301948I just found one of the rarest freaking coins in the United States!!! I ran downstairs and told my wife to get off the treadmill and tell me who her daddy is. Then I called Abe, who allowed me to go on like a schoolgirl about the find (he encouraged it, actually) and he expressed the most sincere happiness for my find. What a guy. Here's to you, buddy. Sorry for the super long post, friends. I never thought I'd get this opportunity.
    Best of luck to everyone. I can't express enough thanks to everyone on T-net for reading, and to whatever force miraculously led my coil over this coin!

    Jeff
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  2. #2
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    Jul 2015
    Raleigh, North Carolina
    Garrett AT Pro, Garrett Ace 350 Garrett pinpointer Lesche 85 and Sampson t-handle 31"
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    Way to go on a find of a lifetime

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    I said I wasn't going to say it publicly, but Dirtwisher just made me a liar. This is without a doubt one of the best coin finds ever posted on TNet and Banner! This variety is insanely rare, with 10 or fewer surmised to exist, maybe 11 now and only 5-8 known. My Pine Tree Threepence is not even close to as rare or valuable as this one. Infact, if I may yield any banner votes for mine to this one, I do so 100%. Incredible!

    http://www.stacksarchive.com/viewlot...0c0e1db360837f
    Last edited by oxbowbarefoot; Apr 19, 2016 at 08:40 PM.

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    Jun 2012
    Northeast PA
    Minelab Etrac Garrett Propointer Garrett Propointer-AT Sampson T handle shovel
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    Fantastic story for an amazing find!, should be banner in no time!
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    Jun 2015
    Boone, NC
    Garrett Ace 250, Garrett ProPointer
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    AWESOME FIND. CONGRATS!!!!!
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    Oldest Copper.. 1736 KGII Half Penny / Oldest Silver... 1756 Spanish Half Real

    May 2014
    Upstate NY
    Minelab Etrac / At Pro / 8.5x11 DD and 5x8 DD coil / Garrett ProPointer / Lesche Digger
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    2866 times
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    Wow . What a discovery . I am in awe
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    Remember its not the treasures we find or the length of the journey. But the fact that when we are done we can look back at our life and smile with a satisfied feeling that we enjoyed the trip. So always "Keep Swinging And Keep Smiling"

  7. #7
    ca
    Oct 2011
    Quebec
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    That's one sweet colonial silver coin....wtg.

    Regards + HH

    Bill
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  8. #8
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    Jul 2012
    Chicagoland
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    Banner Coin, Banner Story, Congrats!
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  9. #9
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    May 2012
    Chicago
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    Got my vote, congrats buddy!
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    Jefferson Detwiler

    Nov 2013
    MA
    XP Deus 9" and 11", AT Pro, Propointer
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    Thank you so much, everyone! I told my wife this is the best day of my life. That didn't go over so well. I added "in the last month".

  11. #11
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    Detect smarter, not harder.

    Mar 2014
    17th century
    Minelab CTX 3030 & XP Deus
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    Abe sent me a pic and I shat myself. He said he would pass my congrats along to you but here it is again...CONGRATULATIONS DUDE!!!!!!!!

    Holy crap you did it. And I do believe it's a hair rarer than your buddies pine tree

    Awesome. Banner. Banner. Banner!


    "Take the detecta-drama elsewhere - I'm just here to dig!"


    Running totals:

    Hammered Silvers - 2
    Hammered Coppers - 1
    Milled Spanish Silver - 14
    Transitional US State Coppers - 9
    United States Cent/Half cent Coppers - 131
    British & Other colonial Coppers - 107
    Slick coppers - too painful to talk about
    Silver Coins - We’ll over a 1000

    Favourite Finds:
    1665 1-reale Spanish Cob
    Revolutionary War stirrup
    1812 2nd Regiment Artillarists pewter button
    1695 Willam 3rd Halfpenny in excellent condition
    G.W. Inagural Buttons - 6 Point Estoile cuff variety
    Love token etched on 1859 seated Dime
    1831 Louis Phillippe 1st - 5 Franc
    1783 Nova Constelatio, Crosby-3C &. Crosby-1B
    1749 Regal King George II Farthing
    1776 Counter King George iii





    If it ain't at least seated, it aint Sh*t

  12. #12
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    Jun 2015
    ES of Maryland
    XP Deus Minelab Equinox
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    Awesome. Thats definately a keeper. I hope I can find a merc soon. LOL
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  13. #13

    Jan 2016
    SC
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    WOW! I don't even know what to say other than Banner!
    oxbowbarefoot and DigIron2 like this.
    2018 Best Finds

    Coins:
    1830 Capped Bust Half Dime
    1859 IHP

    Relics:
    82nd Regiment of Foot Button
    C. Rowley Confederate Block I Button
    1808-1830 State Militia Rifles Eagle Button
    Union GS Infantry Cuff Button
    King George II Trade Weight
    Duke of Wellington Commemorative Button

  14. #14
    us
    Oct 2015
    Naper, Nebraska
    Whites 6000D and now M6
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    139 times
    Metal Detecting
    One of the best finds ever posted!
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  15. #15
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    Jefferson Detwiler

    Nov 2013
    MA
    XP Deus 9" and 11", AT Pro, Propointer
    492
    789 times
    Metal Detecting
    Banner Finds (1)
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappy View Post
    Abe sent me a pic and I shat myself. He said he would pass my congrats along to you but here it is again...CONGRATULATIONS DUDE!!!!!!!!

    Holy crap you did it. And I do believe it's a hair rarer than your buddies pine tree

    Awesome. Banner. Banner. Banner!
    Ha Ha you're killing me! Do you guys know how much I have wanted to have something that would get these kinds of comments? My kids think I'm a dork, but then again so do most of my friends, but all of you guys "get it" so you're awesome.

 

 
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