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  1. #1
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    Detect smarter, not harder.

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    Naval Officers Buckle 1850's - Rare AMES mfg. variety

    I got out for a quick jaunt this afternoon. The new location I found was a house that had the exterior modified, but surely dated pre-1840's. It had been abandoned and literally had 2-3' weeds, and was almost undetectable. Almost...

    First signal was this killer buckle tongue.

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ID:	1323592I searched for a half hour for the other half but no luck. I couldn't get the coil close to the ground for smaller target, so all I caught after that was big targets.

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    After some cleaning...

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    What I believe I have is an Ames Mfg. Co. Navy buckle 1851-1862. This early variety has two stars by the anchor. Some of the gold gilting remains, but I didn't want to over clean it. It's definitely one of my favorite buckle finds ever

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    Just a little updated pic - first one in sunlight

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    I love it!!!!
    Last edited by Scrappy; Jun 11, 2016 at 06:16 AM.

    "Take the detecta-drama elsewhere - I'm just here to dig!"

    Running totals:

    Hammered Silvers - 2
    Hammered Coppers - 1
    Milled Spanish Silver - 12
    Colonial State Coppers - 7
    United States Cent/Half cent Coppers - 107
    British & Other colonial Coppers - 90
    Slick coppers - too painful to talk about
    Silver Coins - 800-900

    Favourite Finds:
    1665 1-reale Spanish Cob
    Revolutionary War stirrup
    1812 2nd Regiment Artillarists pewter button
    1695 Willam 3rd Halfpenny in excellent condition
    G.W. Inagural Buttons - 6 Point Estoile cuff variety
    Love token etched on 1859 seated Dime
    1852 Trimmy trimmy trime
    1831 Louis Phillippe 1st - 5 Franc
    1783 Nova Constelatio, Crosby-3C
    1749 King George II Farthing (mint fresh)

    If it ain't at least seated, it aint Sh*t

  2. #2
    May 2008
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    That is KILLER alright.
    A heart break not to get the other half, but hey, half is much better than no half.
    And I do know exactly how you would feel I got half a tongue, and wreath buckle, and was unable to get the other half.
    But maybe next spring you have a better chance ?
    Good luck out there.

  3. #3

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    Better to find that half than just the wreath! Nice find, maybe adding a weedwhacker to the kit will help locate the rest.
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  4. #4
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    That is awesome. Makes you want to go back with one of those motorless push mowers. Theres an old drive in theater site that is all weeds closed in the early 70s I know theres lots of silver there but like your site there is no swinging the detector. Just thinking out loud Great find!!!!! I would love to find something like that. Keep up the good posts
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    KEEP PLUGGIN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

  5. #5
    Oct 2014
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    That would be a site that I would always have as a backup. Eventually you will find the wreath portion ....if it is there.
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  6. #6
    Apr 2014
    New York
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    Awesome find Scrappy!! I'd be thrilled definitely a cool buckle. Just curious is that a 51 I see?does that mean 1851?

    Congrats and HH.
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    DIG WE MUST !!!!!!

  7. #7
    Apr 2016
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    congrats on a killer find.
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    1781 Half reale, Spanish cob, 1802 1 Real
    1740 King George,Vermont state copper 178?
    1853 Trime
    1851 Large cent,1840 large cent
    6lb canon ball
    3 x N.C sunburst, Confederate block I coat,block I cuff
    S.C button
    Regiment Artillerists button 1811-1813
    Union Naval shell fuse
    Eagle I button,Eagle over canon button 1812
    Colonial cuff links intact
    1860 Indian Head fatty, 1859 fatty indian head
    1743 King George
    1861 Indian Head fatty
    1869 V nickel
    1902 Barber quarter, 1939 Walking half Dollar
    XP deus CTX 30/30
    May God bless you.

  8. #8
    That's quite a nice find Steve. In my experience it's very difficult to find both halves to a 2-piece buckle like that, but it just might be hiding somewhere at that site. Good luck finding it.
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    - Hammered silver coins (pre-1645 not including cobs): 22
    - Hammered silver coins from the 1500s: 8 (all sixpences)
    - Spanish cobs: 22
    - Cut silver pieces: 88
    - Other whole colonial silver coins: 59
    - Colonial silver counterfeits: 3
    OLDEST COLONIAL SILVER COIN DUG: 1563 Elizabeth I sixpence

    - Early 1600s jettons (3 dug)
    - 1600s Half penny trade token
    - 1650-75 Edward Jarvis "The George" tavern penny token (London)
    - 1670 Bristol merchant's farthing token
    - 1675 Charles II farthing
    - 1677-79 Charles II bawbee sixpence
    - 1694 W&M halfpenny (2 dug)
    - 1795 Liberty cap cent (graded EF)
    - 1797, 1798 & 1803 Draped bust LCs
    - 1811 Half cent (rare date - graded EF)
    - 1700s KG coppers (20-25 dug)
    - 1773 Va halfpennies (42-45 dug)
    - 1786 German 1 pfennig
    - 1700s French copper
    - Numerous 1700s undated or slicks

    ** All of these coins were dug at numerous colonial sites in southeast Virginia after securing property owner permission.


    I am anticipating that my new book entitled "DISCOVERING VIRGINIA'S COLONIAL ARTIFACTS - A Comprehensive Guide to Recovery, Identification and Preservation" will be available sometime during Fall 2017. This hardcover volume, nearly 400 pages in length, will double as both a "how-to" manual as well as a colonial artifact "encyclopedia" to help ID and date your finds. This publication will be a valuable resource not just for the colonial enthusiast, but for all metal detecting hobbyists as it covers topics such as research, permission, how to read and search sites, trash pits, artifact cleaning, preservation, documentation and display, ethics, and many more. It will also contain nearly 1000 color photos of 16th, 17th and 18th century artifacts I have personally recovered over the last 20+ years along with many quality post-colonial finds that randomly turn up at early sites. Updates will be provided as we get closer to the projected release date. (Last updated 6-15-17)

  9. #9

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    AWESOME.. I grew up right down the street from the Ames co. - its now apartments
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    Motto = "I try to hit where others cant or others wont "

  10. #10
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    Great find Scrappy!!! I hope you find the other half. It will make you nuts!

    HH RN
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  11. #11
    ARC / Aquaman

    Aug 2014
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    In overgrowth...
    "Pat the coil" and "scrub"...
    Push through... don't swing...
    When you get a signal... push aside growth with your feet then instead of an X pattern do small to larger circles.
    And the ole dip in "dip swing".

    Well done Scrappy.
    Last edited by AARC; Jun 10, 2016 at 04:50 PM.
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    Have permission... Fill holes... Dispose of trash.

  12. #12
    Feb 2015
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    BEEEEEEEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!! congratulations on such a special find .

    Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk
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  13. #13
    Jul 2010
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    Really cool buckle Steve. Maybe you can get back in there this winter and find the other half.
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    Spanish Silver Totals
    Cut Pieces = 18
    Half Reals = 27
    1 Reals = 11
    2 Reales = 6
    8 Reales = 1
    2 Reale Cobs = 2
    Other Early Silver Coins
    1797 & 1803 Draped Bust Dimes
    1830 Capped Bust 5 cents
    1827 Capped Bust dime
    1661 Hammered silver King Leopold
    1697 William III 6-pence

    Space prevents me from adding other buttons, coins, and relics

  14. #14
    Nov 2012
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    That's a heart stopper Scrappy and I voted this sweet buckle for a banner find. I'll bet that other part will be found when the area is easier to get to.
    Scrappy and DigIron2 like this.
    "What if it's not just another pull tab?" - Lance

  15. #15
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    Dec 2015
    Maryland's eastern shore
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    Very nice find congrats
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