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    Naval Officers Buckle 1850's - Rare AMES mfg. variety

    I got out for a quick jaunt this afternoon. The new location I found was a house that had the exterior modified, but surely dated pre-1840's. It had been abandoned and literally had 2-3' weeds, and was almost undetectable. Almost...

    First signal was this killer buckle tongue.

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ID:	1323592I searched for a half hour for the other half but no luck. I couldn't get the coil close to the ground for smaller target, so all I caught after that was big targets.

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    After some cleaning...

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    What I believe I have is an Ames Mfg. Co. Navy buckle 1851-1862. This early variety has two stars by the anchor. Some of the gold gilting remains, but I didn't want to over clean it. It's definitely one of my favorite buckle finds ever

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    Enjoy.

    Just a little updated pic - first one in sunlight

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    I love it!!!!
    Last edited by Scrappy; Jun 11, 2016 at 06:16 AM.


    "Take the detecta-drama elsewhere - I'm just here to dig!"


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    Hammered Silvers - 2
    Hammered Coppers - 1
    Milled Spanish Silver - 13
    Colonial State Coppers - 7
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    Slick coppers - too painful to talk about
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  2. #2
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    That is KILLER alright.
    A heart break not to get the other half, but hey, half is much better than no half.
    And I do know exactly how you would feel I got half a tongue, and wreath buckle, and was unable to get the other half.
    But maybe next spring you have a better chance ?
    Good luck out there.

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    Better to find that half than just the wreath! Nice find, maybe adding a weedwhacker to the kit will help locate the rest.
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    That is awesome. Makes you want to go back with one of those motorless push mowers. Theres an old drive in theater site that is all weeds closed in the early 70s I know theres lots of silver there but like your site there is no swinging the detector. Just thinking out loud Great find!!!!! I would love to find something like that. Keep up the good posts
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    That would be a site that I would always have as a backup. Eventually you will find the wreath portion ....if it is there.
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    Awesome find Scrappy!! I'd be thrilled definitely a cool buckle. Just curious is that a 51 I see?does that mean 1851?

    Congrats and HH.
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    congrats on a killer find.
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    1851 Large cent,1840 large cent
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    1869 V nickel
    1902 Barber quarter, 1939 Walking half Dollar
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    May God bless you.

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    That's quite a nice find Steve. In my experience it's very difficult to find both halves to a 2-piece buckle like that, but it just might be hiding somewhere at that site. Good luck finding it.
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    TOTAL COLONIAL SILVER COINS DUG: 194
    - Hammered silver coins (pre-1645 not including cobs): 22
    - Hammered silver coins from the 1500s: 8 (all sixpences)
    - Spanish cobs: 22
    - Cut silver pieces: 88
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    - 1773 Va halfpennies (42-45 dug)
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    AWESOME.. I grew up right down the street from the Ames co. - its now apartments
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    Great find Scrappy!!! I hope you find the other half. It will make you nuts!

    HH RN
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    In overgrowth...
    "Pat the coil" and "scrub"...
    Push through... don't swing...
    When you get a signal... push aside growth with your feet then instead of an X pattern do small to larger circles.
    And the ole dip in "dip swing".

    Well done Scrappy.
    Last edited by AARC; Jun 10, 2016 at 04:50 PM.
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    Have permission... Fill holes... Dispose of trash.

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    BEEEEEEEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!! congratulations on such a special find .

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    Really cool buckle Steve. Maybe you can get back in there this winter and find the other half.
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    Half Reals = 29
    1 Reals = 11
    2 Reales = 6
    8 Reales = 1
    2 Reale Cobs = 2
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    1830 Capped Bust 5 cents
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  14. #14
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    That's a heart stopper Scrappy and I voted this sweet buckle for a banner find. I'll bet that other part will be found when the area is easier to get to.
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    Very nice find congrats
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