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    Quote Originally Posted by Westfront View Post
    Stunning finds again Vince! You're in a great area. Military was present for sure. The coins are perfect, more than that i like the slingshot bullets, the arrowtip and the buckle. Although don't exacly agree with Plumbata on the bullets. Romans had used both types and many of the Roman ones found are the oval shaped type. I don't think you can say for sure unless you find one with a stamped Legio number or carved ones.
    Didn't read this, so you think slingshot as well, although a couple looked steelyard.
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    Yeah Westfront, there was a lot of variation and I've mosty handled Romano-Iberian, Cypriot and Balkan examples; not sure what was going on with them in Italy.

    Vince, here's what I'm talking about by embossed bullets, this is the most recent one I added to my collection:
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    I identified it as a Hellenistic bullet from Aspendos in Pamphylia, with the bent-leg Triskelion symbol being the symbol of the city. The mercenary slingers from the city were of such renown that the reverse of their silver staters bore a slinger (plus the Triskelion):
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    A plain bullet might be worth 10 dollars, but ones with decent inscriptions can be 50-300.00 items so are definitely worth scrutinizing. Please be sure to hit that spot hard and post more goodies as you find them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER View Post
    Didn't read this, so you think slingshot as well, although a couple looked steelyard.
    I would say by the pics. There is a very wide range on size, starting with little as 28 grams, found in a camp here up to 140 and more. With no signs of a rusted out loop i stay with bullet. I'll have a look if i can find a pic about shape of them.

    Here we go

    Source Wikipedia
    Last edited by Westfront; Aug 19, 2016 at 03:56 PM.
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    Hi guys.
    I went back to the site and i found some more coins, two arrow heads, a spear head and another 'bullet'.
    I didn't know anything about this kind of bullets. First i thought they were steelyards but i have been wondering why should they be damaged. then a friend of mine told me they were used for the fishing nets. I thought he was right and i've been thinking all this days about this theory. But i was wondering how could they manage going up and down the hill with the net and all these weights, and why would they bring the nets on top of the hill?
    But as i arrived home i red the Plumbata's comment and i ran on the bathroom, took my new toothbrush and cleaned them all. But, no signs or maybe i am not able to notice them.
    For sure, i noticed that i have both types. And i agree with Plumbata because there are signs on them that show they were banged on hard surface, like a wall.
    Thank you guys. That was really helpful.
    Last edited by vince76; Aug 20, 2016 at 03:59 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumbata View Post
    Also I'm not sure if your Greek bronze coins came from a cache but soldiers often buried their coins before battle so more treasure is probably hidden in the area, great location to hunt!
    I will be waiting for winter time Plumbata. It is very hard to search an area with high grass, a lot of big spiders, a few different snakes and 40'C 🤕. The most of them was close to the surface but because of there size, the deeper one don't ring or sound like ferrous.
    Thanks for your help
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loco-Digger View Post
    Holy Moly Vince you have been on a roll. Wow, awesome coinage bro. Maybe someday if I get across the pond, you'll take me out for a little coil swinging. I'll pay for dinner.

    My banner vote is in.
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    I will pay for the dinner and you can pay for the beers.
    You are welcome any time
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  7. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by vince76 View Post
    Hi guys.
    I went back to the site and i found some more coins, two arrow heads and another 'bullet'.
    I didn't know anything about this kind of bullets. First i thought they were steelyards but i have been wondering why should they be damaged. then a friend of mine told me they were used for the fishing nets. I thought he was right and i've been thinking all this days about this theory. But i was wondering how could they manage going up and down the hill with the net and all these weights, and why would they bring the nets on top of the hill?
    But as i arrived home i red the Plumbata's comment and i ran on the bathroom, took my new toothbrush and cleaned them all. But, no signs or maybe i am not able to notice them.
    For sure, i noticed that i have both types. And i agree with Plumbata because there are signs on them that show they were banged on hard surface, like a wall.
    Thank you guys. That was really helpful.
    OK. At the top or near the top of the hill is the perfect defensive position for slingshots, which is what I first thought but was unsure. If they had iron residue at either end then they are steelyard weights.
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  8. #23
    ''I also found a Turkish coin maybe from 20th centuary and this small silver coin (or a ring).''

    The Lead in the picture above the statement I just quoted is called a 'Pot Mend' - used to fill a hole in an ancient pot (made from clay)

    Its a good base indicator for a Roman or Medieval Site (in the UK).
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    Very cool sling weights and the Alexander coinage is excellent! Wow!
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    Congrats vince76 , a great collection of coins and artefacts , some real ancient history there ! .. cheers Mick
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumbata View Post
    Yeah Westfront, there was a lot of variation and I've mosty handled Romano-Iberian, Cypriot and Balkan examples; not sure what was going on with them in Italy.

    Vince, here's what I'm talking about by embossed bullets, this is the most recent one I added to my collection:
    Click image for larger version. 

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    I identified it as a Hellenistic bullet from Aspendos in Pamphylia, with the bent-leg Triskelion symbol being the symbol of the city. The mercenary slingers from the city were of such renown that the reverse of their silver staters bore a slinger (plus the Triskelion):
    Click image for larger version. 

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    A plain bullet might be worth 10 dollars, but ones with decent inscriptions can be 50-300.00 items so are definitely worth scrutinizing. Please be sure to hit that spot hard and post more goodies as you find them!
    Hi Plumbata.
    Your sling bullet is beautiful. It doesn't seem to have the white patina! Did you clean it?
    I hit the spot again yesterday and here is the stuff i could dig yesterday.

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    Last edited by vince76; Aug 20, 2016 at 03:01 PM.
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    Alexander the Great (336-323 BC) bronze coins.

    Quote Originally Posted by Westfront View Post
    I would say by the pics. There is a very wide range on size, starting with little as 28 grams, found in a camp here up to 140 and more. With no signs of a rusted out loop i stay with bullet. I'll have a look if i can find a pic about shape of them.

    Here we go

    Source Wikipedia
    I agree with you Westfront.
    I have different shapes and weights.
    I am fascinated with them now and i weighed them one by one. I would separate them in 25,30,35,45,50 and 60 gr.
    This is one from 35 gr. It looks like almond shape!

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    Last edited by vince76; Aug 20, 2016 at 03:46 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
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    The Lead in the picture above the statement I just quoted is called a 'Pot Mend' - used to fill a hole in an ancient pot (made from clay)

    Its a good base indicator for a Roman or Medieval Site (in the UK).
    WOOOW
    That is great news too. I was sure it was made on purpose but i had no idea at all what it was.
    Thanks Cru.
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    Incredible !!! What history you recovered!! Congrats and HH
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  15. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by vince76 View Post
    WOOOW
    That is great news too. I was sure it was made on purpose but i had no idea at all what it was.
    Thanks Cru.
    No worries.
    Find these & there is normally a Site nearby. I get lots of them. Look out for some with little bits of clay pot still attached or even better, the 'Thumb Print' of the person doing the fix.
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