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    KG1 Half Penny, Awesome Iron, a Compass and 25 Buttons

    I got out a few days after work last week for a total of about 10 hours of hunting at a few different spots. I scored a well worn, but still ID-able King George I half penny. I also got a beautiful hand wrought complete hoe blade from a colonial site. I dug a second one at the same site, however it was broken in half. The worlds tiniest thimble also made an appearance and the hand made bricks I brought home to use in my displays. I also cleaned up a tin cup that wasnt far from the KG copper... its crushed, but old and cool looking.

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    This is my first colonial copper of the year and its an early one. A small right facing bust with "IVS" still visible above King George. I may be able to clean the reverse some more and possibly get a date, but there's such a small date range these were made.

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    I was very happy to pull this from an elbow deep hole. I put it through electrolysis this weekend and it just came out of the hot wax. There were two hand wrought nails through the neck when I dug it. I suppose they used them as the wedge in the handle. They're pretty far gone, but I have them in the garage and I might try and tumble them later on.

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    This ax turned up at a different spot where the IHPs came from. I believe its from the second half of the 19th century and they used two bolts through the eye as a wedge in its wooden handle. The bolts are still jammed in there.

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    This tin cup isn't the type of thing I typically keep, however I noticed it still had its handle so I decided to try and do something with it. This was close to the KG and hoe blade and I believe its also colonial and similar to the picture from "Collectors Illustrated Encyclopedia of The American Revolution". The handle is bent on the edges in the same way and its soldered in a similar fashion. I stuck it in oxalic acid for about 24 hours and it cleaned up nicely.

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    This pocket knife was a HUGE surprise. I was looking through my iron pile yesterday and pulled out this concretion that I assumed was just a hunk of iron from something... then I noticed wood grain on it. I grabbed my tack hammer and lightly tapped it and the concretion broke off reveling a very well preserved wood handle pocket knife I don't even remember which spot this one came from, but if I had to guess, I'd say its 1850's or so. This is the second time I've found a concretion that was protecting preserved wood. I think it might have something to do with the interaction of wood and iron in wet soil.. you can see rocks embedded like concrete in the concretion. After chipping it out and using a dental pick to clean it up, I gave it two coats of Tung Oil to solidify it.

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    The was the best signal I heard in a while and when I saw a round thing I was thinking it was a BIG copper. I knew it wasnt another watch, but thought either a compact, however with the loop on it I was HOPEFUL it was a compass. I was able to pry it open and... compass it was! It's the most modern find of the bunch, but I was still happy to dig something so unique. It says "West Germany" on it, which helped me narrow the date range and after googling some it appears to be 1950's or so.

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    This long skinny brass piece also came from the KG site. Its hammered on one end with a crude hole. On the other end it was cut down the middle of the square rod and split to form a Y with a small iron pin at the end of the Y. (obviously half of the Y is missing) I'm calling it a handle to a candle snuffer with a bell on it, where the bell would have pivoted between the Y split.

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    Similar to this one, however what I found is much more basic and I cant find a less fancy one to compare it to. I'm open to any other suggestions on what it might be though.

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    This is the smallest thimble I've ever seen! The buttons are for size comparison. I am guessing either a child's toy, or a thimble for a 5 year old (or so) to learn sewing.

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    A couple nice rose heads from the KG site that I tumbled.

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    Better pictures of the group

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    This scythe handle with the brass ferrule attached was a cool thing to dig. I've found the pieces separate, but never still together.

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    The oil lamp still has its wick in it.

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    Its incredible to see the wood grain in this preserved pocket knife.

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    A few pewter buttons turned up and one has a nice design on it (left of KG). Also a cool cuff sized domed tombac.

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    ... and the iron and trash (some is still in electrolysis and not in this post)

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    This was a hunt from Sat April 1st using only my GPX. It wasnt enough for me to post it then, so I'm tacking it on this post. After the DIV hunt, I felt like I knew the GPX so much better and gave it another spin at a hard hit site of mine. I didn't do too bad, however I didn't take a picture of the iron and this small handful represented 4 hours of hunting. The reality is that a deep nail or a bent nail sounds just like a good target. I can tell most iron and some nails, but to hunt around a house with a GPX is a lot of digging. It shines relic hunting at DIV hunts where occupancy was limited to a brief time and not spanning 100's of years like around a house. However, I still feel like I know the machine much better now and it is awesome to have in my arsenal.

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    One of the etched tombacs was a close match to two others I dug there in the past. They're all the same pattern, but just slightly different in their etching.

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    Thanks for looking and happy hunting everyone

  2. #2
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    Those are some real great finds!!
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    Congrats on a nice assortment of finds
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    I see you are proud of that haul - I would be, too...!
    Great Stuff!
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    Killer saves, nice post
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    Man I'm always impressed with the sheer amount of GOOD targets you dig up. Really great stuff, as always
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    You don't post, Brad, you take us on a little museum tour! You also solved a mystery for me: I didn't know what my "brass ferrule" was until now. Cool beans.

    Nice to see your work and all the conservation...that display is super pleasing to the eye.

    I finally got out this weekend. I may post a couple of little finds later. Cheers
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    Brad - when you do a post you mean business .... ha! I thoroughly enjoyed another outstanding compilation of your recent adventures including a lot of interesting and seldom seen items. And nice job on some of the IDs. I'd have to say my favorites are some of the more unusual things like that early tin cup, the scythe handle, the candle snuffer handle, and the compass. Great job on both the digging and putting together this awesome post (and the electrolysis).
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    MY BOOK HAS SOLD OUT OF ALL 1200+ COPIES IN LESS THAN 4 MONTHS. NO 2ND PRINTING IS ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME. THANKS TO ALL WHO MADE THIS PROJECT A SUCCESS.


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    Great bunch of finds. Oh you said the one is a scythe handle with a brass ferrule. I have two of those I've scratched my head about for awhile trying to figure them out, just the iron part though. Can you post a photo of how it would appear on the scythe? Thanks.
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    Even though I get all your pics as they happen, I'm incredibly impressed all over again by your digs. Wow!

    Your finds span about 150 years and so many sides of life back then. Excellent finds and nice work with that hoe - it's bloody amazing!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worm-Slicer View Post
    Great bunch of finds. Oh you said the one is a scythe handle with a brass ferrule. I have two of those I've scratched my head about for awhile trying to figure them out, just the iron part though. Can you post a photo of how it would appear on the scythe? Thanks.
    Absolutely. It went something like this. The nib band went through the scythe shaft and the nut in the back of the handle tightened the ferrule on the nib band as the handle was twisted. So you could move the handle around, then twist the handle to tighten the nib back on the scythe shaft. I find the brass pieces and the nib bands, but this was the first time I found one together. Made me smile seeing it turn up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z.K. View Post
    You don't post, Brad, you take us on a little museum tour! You also solved a mystery for me: I didn't know what my "brass ferrule" was until now. Cool beans.

    Nice to see your work and all the conservation...that display is super pleasing to the eye.

    I finally got out this weekend. I may post a couple of little finds later. Cheers
    Thanks man! Glad to see its thawed enough for you to start getting out up there. Looking forward to your posts.

    For reference, I typically dig the iron bits or brass bits, but not together. Probably because we mostly find things that broke! So if the scythe handle breaks, the brass goes one way and iron the other. I suppose the one I found was left and rotted in place.

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    Here it is after electrolysis, before hot wax. I took this picture, because I knew the boiling wax would darken the brass and I'd lose the green patina on it. I tried to slip the brass off before wax, but I'd have to break off the iron nut to get it off, so I put the whole thing in the pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill D. (VA) View Post
    Brad - when you do a post you mean business .... ha! I thoroughly enjoyed another outstanding compilation of your recent adventures including a lot of interesting and seldom seen items. And nice job on some of the IDs. I'd have to say my favorites are some of the more unusual things like that early tin cup, the scythe handle, the candle snuffer handle, and the compass. Great job on both the digging and putting together this awesome post (and the electrolysis).
    Thanks a ton Bill! As you know, my guess on the "candle snuffer" ID is a somewhat educated guess... hopefully its correct. I was impressed at the oxalic acid on the tin cup. I've used it on rusty beer and soda cans from sporting camp trash dumps, but never on a piece of dug iron. You can see the solder seem very well on the inside of the cup now. If that darn compass was 100 years older, it would have been front and center and the star of the hunt. ha I've lucked out lately with complete items like the silver pocket watch and this compass. Since I hurt my back moving stuff this weekend, I was too crippled to do anything but work on this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappy View Post
    Even though I get all your pics as they happen, I'm incredibly impressed all over again by your digs. Wow!

    Your finds span about 150 years and so many sides of life back then. Excellent finds and nice work with that hoe - it's bloody amazing!!
    Thanks a ton man. Glad you like the hoe, I really think its my favorite find of the bunch. Its always satisfying to find something that isn't broken and will preserve nicely. I was happy to finally get a colonial copper this year... you know weather and responsibilities has kept me from hunting like I wanted to. If that compass is 1950 and that KG1 is ~1720 or so, then the span is 230 years I'll probably zap the other broken hoe from this site too, since I know its an old one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTColonialDigger View Post
    Those are some real great finds!!
    Thanks VTColonialDigger!

    Quote Originally Posted by trapperart View Post
    Congrats on a nice assortment of finds
    Thanks Art!

    Quote Originally Posted by eyemustdigtreasure View Post
    I see you are proud of that haul - I would be, too...!
    Great Stuff!
    Thanks eyemustdigtreasure! This was definitely a long post, because some odd and cool items turned up.

    Quote Originally Posted by coloradocav1 View Post
    Killer saves, nice post
    Thanks coloradocav1!

    Quote Originally Posted by J.Cache View Post
    Man I'm always impressed with the sheer amount of GOOD targets you dig up. Really great stuff, as always
    Thanks man! There's a mess of nails, sheet iron and shot shells in that dirty iron and trash pile. My approach is typically sheer volume in the number of plugs I dig then I tote it all home to sort through later... and sometimes get a cool surprise like that pocket knife concretion. Most of my sites have been hunted by others, so I rarely get that perfect signal... I just dig all the crappy and questionable signals that aren't always good. But I get rewarded with cool iron doing that, which most people leave behind.

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    Another varied and excellent bunch of finds Brad. You did a great job cleaning and preserving the pocket knife-removing concretions without damaging the relic is a tedious job I really like that etched tombac button-and what is the deal with the small button with all the holes in it?

    Oh and you forgot to mention the two-tined fork. Another very good find.

 

 
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