1787 Nova Eborac Facing Right

[Bitdrop]

Found this with my dad right before I left for California. We we're doing the colonial cellar hole where I pulled up a KG II, 1796 Liberty Cap, and Vlack 19-87C Machin Mills Half Penny. Never thought it was even a possibility to find one. I tried doing some research online because I was interested in seeing how many were minted but couldn't find much. If anyone knows - feel free to chime in.



GL & HH

 

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[kray]

Beautiful looking coin; never seen one before!

 

[coinman123]

Nice copper, and in pretty good condition! Hope you guys have fun in California!

 

[dfallis1]

Congrats! Nice find and in good shape for a largie.

 

[Mzjavert]

No clue as to number minted. But they sure made a beauty.

 

[trapperart]

Congrats on a very nice copper

 

[JerseyDigger19]

No mintage here but here are some recent auction results: https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explor...787-figure-right-nova-eborac-ms-coinid-108287

 

[Evolution]

Sweet New York copper. Don't see those every day.

 

[OutdoorAdv]

Really awesome copper. I had never heard of them before, so before commenting I read a bit about them here Nova Eborac Coppers: Introduction. Very interesting and like Evolution pointed out above me... a New York copper.

 

[l.cutler]

Those are some great finds. There are no records of mintage on most colonial coins. There are rarity ratings estimating the number of pieces known today for the different varieties.

 

[Bitdrop]

Those are some great finds. There are no records of mintage on most colonial coins. There are rarity ratings estimating the number of pieces known today for the different varieties.

And how many would you say still exist of Crosby 1-A?

 

[Scrappy]

That little beauty is on my list! Congrats on the NY copper! Awesome [emoji122]

 

[Bitdrop]

Nice copper, and in pretty good condition! Hope you guys have fun in California!

Thank you! Looking forward to getting back on the east coast though...

 

[l.cutler]

And how many would you say still exist of Crosby 1-A?

According to the Whitman Encyclopedia of Colonial and Early American coins between 125 and 249.

 

[port ewen ace]

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[Truth]

Nice old find. Congratulations


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[against the wind]

Sweet rare find.
Congratulations

 

[Bitdrop]

According to the Whitman Encyclopedia of Colonial and Early American coins between 125 and 249.

wow...that's kind of nuts...

 

[Donnie B from VA]

Found this with my dad right before I left for California. We we're doing the colonial cellar hole where I pulled up a KG II, 1796 Liberty Cap, and Vlack 19-87C Machin Mills Half Penny. Never thought it was even a possibility to find one. I tried doing some research online because I was interested in seeing how many were minted but couldn't find much. If anyone knows - feel free to chime in.

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GL & HH

Here is some information which may help determine the variety: "All Nova Eborac coppers bear the date 1787. They are found in four varieties made from three obverse and four reverse dies. The four basic types are as follows: Crosby 1-A, medium head with reverse figure facing right; Crosby 1-B, medium head with reverse figure facing left; Crosby 2-C, the large head variety; and Crosby 3-D, the small head variety. Trudgen believes the first variety to be struck was Crosby 3-D, the small head variety (estimated from ten to twelve examples survive). This "small head" (die 3) can be easily identified by the obverse legend which is the only variety to use a six pointed star at either end on the legend (all other varieties use quatrefoils) and is also the only variety to have a star above the bust (all others are blank at the top). This was followed by Crosby 2-C, the large head variety (twenty-five to thirty specimens survive). The "large head" variety (die 2) can be distinguished as the only variety with two quatrefoil designs before "NOVA" in the legend; it is also the only quatrefoil variety that lacks a quatrefoil after NOVA. The next variety, Crosby 1-B, is known as the medium head with reverse facing left (thirty to forty examples with full date and 170-210 examples with partial or weak date). The obverse die 1 can be distinguised in that it has a single quatrefoil before and another after NOVA. This variety with reverse B is distinguished as the only medium head variety with a reverse where the seated figure faces left. The final variety, Crosby 1-A, has the same obverse medium head die as 1-B, however it is the only variety that has a reverse facing right. The only similar right facing Liberty is found on a Connecticut copper, 1786 Miller 1.4-WW. The only other right facing Liberty is the very different styled figure holding the scales of justice as found on the 1785 Immune Columbia, the 1786 Non Vi Virtuti Vici and the 1786-7 coppers with the Immunis Columbia motto. The Nova Eborac Crosby A-1 comes in three die states, early (fifteen to twenty examples), middle (forty to fifty examples) and late (90-120 examples). The first state is without defect, the middle state shows a die break on the obverse starting from the rim at the B in "LIB". The final state occurs when the crack widens into a triangular cud."
Nova Eborac Coppers: Introduction

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Fantastic old copper recovery!